In the WaPo today (via the AP):
As for U k9 porn.S dogsex bath story. allies, most believe more weapons inspections are necessary before any resort to force in Iraq, although French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin, speaking after Powell’s presentation of declassified intelligence, left open the use of force as an option Cindy dog sex. He also called for more inspections in Iraq Bestia Brasil.
It looks like the AP needs to stop letting Reuters sneak into its cubicles and workstations and do its hobgoblin-like mischief unchecked.
“Most” US allies believe more weapons inspections are necessary, eh? I suppose that most doesn’t include those 18 NATO countries that have recently expressed vocal solidarity with the US’ intention to now use military force.
side of the political spectrum... what are they called?lap dance.
An insightful, well-written and quite simply excellent column somehow found its way in the SF Chronicle's website today.
and that it wasn't fair for these people to stop them, the girl started literally screaming at her about selfish she was.
I tried to present my ideas in an honest and truthful way, and not be seriously offensive, even when he acted in ways
I have to admit I'm pretty curious just to see what he's going to do. The guy has shown himself to have an overpowering
when you apply your own internal calculus of death and suffering and conclude that it isn't something that you need
Yes, well I suppose you're suggesting that we would be well-served to wait for this "final proof," then? Very well. I'll
really just put Saddam in a better situation than he was before because the presence of inspectors invites complacency and
psychopathic fancy without fear of retribution.
Stand up to these thugs This Wednesday, the 16th at noon, an apparent composite of the Students for Justice in Palestine
a careful, precise argument, what point is there in engaging them verbally anymore?
without regard to whether the loss is due to the growth of a heartless and all-absorbing commercialism,
in words so much more exacting than even those who actually live in that time would be able to produce?
to all of you warmongering neanderthals" tone of voice. She then struck a pose of righteous exasperation when she asked
Well I'm far far far too petty a person to do that.
Hey, didn't there used to be a city where this smoking crater is?
go it alone. What he failed to do was tell us who the members of his war coalition are. Why? Because there is no coalition.
owned," she pontificated, in that snotty "52% of my clothes are made of hemp which therefore makes me morally superior
chanting in his face and moved in front of him every time he tried to get around her.
And exactly how do you go from no "final proof" to there being no evidence of impending aggression? The very fact that
When they aired some actual interviews with the protesters, I started to honestly think they were part of some sort of
nothing may stand in our way!
of righteousness; and it becomes a very evil thing if it serves merely as a mask for cowardice and
Eventually he got a little ticked off and said roughly, "Get away from me!" I was hungrily anticipating the energetic dissenter
we could go and stop the Soviets and all their expansionist hijinks, but then we'd like, have to go all the way over to
"The death of that man is a religious duty, but his case should not be tied to the Christian community," Shabestari,
obviously they have lost loved ones or friends."
And exactly how do you go from no "final proof" to there being no evidence of impending aggression? The very fact that
Heh. Didn't Nostradamus write something about "a bespeckled plague rising in the West..."?
"The death of that man is a religious duty, but his case should not be tied to the Christian community," Shabestari,
a careful, precise argument, what point is there in engaging them verbally anymore?
But I am thankful that at least for now, I've been able to summon that deep-seated, personal wrath so appropriate to an
in words so much more exacting than even those who actually live in that time would be able to produce?
why she thought there weren't more stories about protests going on in the news, "Well, because the media is corporately
I'm going to be checking the weather channel for reports of snowflakes in Hell, but meanwhile you should go read it now.
assures everyone that "Don't worry, the problem is being taking care of by the inspectors."
Bush also spoke of an "international coalition" that would disarm Hussein. Bush knows the American public is loathe to
But it's not really fair to denigrate someone's ideas just because they themselves come from an organization riddled with
During the last half of the 20th century, this principle was expanded internationally through the United Nations. The U.N.
And exactly how do you go from no "final proof" to there being no evidence of impending aggression? The very fact that
When they aired some actual interviews with the protesters, I started to honestly think they were part of some sort of
and the decisions to do so would based on (as in this case) measured calculations of the relative benefits and costs,
Maybe I can't change the fact that I have to be intimately confronted with the death and pain in order to really feel the
And exactly how do you go from no "final proof" to there being no evidence of impending aggression? The very fact that
When they aired some actual interviews with the protesters, I started to honestly think they were part of some sort of
Watching Channel 7 news today (the Simpsons were in a commercial), they reported on a wad of dingbats who blocked access
Peace is generally good in itself, but it is never the highest good unless it comes as the handmaid
to get a good smack upside the head (or as I call it, a "hippie hello"), but that was apparently too much for the niggardly
I tried to present my ideas in an honest and truthful way, and not be seriously offensive, even when he acted in ways
One of the great advances of the modern era has been the spread of the rule of law. This is the now common idea that
cause, but I,
he revealed himself to be a seriously dishonest debater (that, or he was so stupid that it wouldn't be safe for him to
the world to stomach the imperial scent of our newly enunciated military doctrine that proposes pre- emption of any powerful
to make the first world poor and make sure the third world stays that way.
Mr Mitnick even had to get permission from his probation officer to use a computer to write his book, The Art Of Deception,
he revealed himself to be a seriously dishonest debater (that, or he was so stupid that it wouldn't be safe for him to
the world to stomach the imperial scent of our newly enunciated military doctrine that proposes pre- emption of any powerful
...but there's no shame in being a follower when those you're following make such damn good points.
and eastern Europe, Australia and the middle east. Is that not multilateralism?
really just put Saddam in a better situation than he was before because the presence of inspectors invites complacency and
That is, until this morning. Now I'm glad to say that I've gotten over getting over it, and am thoroughly pissed again.
slope proposition, claiming that because we go after Saddam, we'll suddenly be all aggro-ed up to obliterate any country
Another Australian tourist, 18-year-old Rachel Hughes, said she and her boyfriend had just arrived in Kuta when the blast
Now at this point, most people would just say, "let it go, and move on."
really just put Saddam in a better situation than he was before because the presence of inspectors invites complacency and
curiosity that trumps any sort of legal resriction placed on him, but it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that he's
University or Diversity
Now at this point, most people would just say, "let it go, and move on."
that off my list of things to do. Now, on to learning how to square-dance."
in words so much more exacting than even those who actually live in that time would be able to produce?
...but there's no shame in being a follower when those you're following make such damn good points.
anger that is so justifiable -no, demanded- by these despicable acts, but if that must be the case, then from on, I'll be
needed now was healing, closure; in short, to "get over it" and "move on."
The article also points to this site, which maintains a running clock of how long it will be until Mitnick can start
Meanwhile, the fact that we are able to use pre-emptive action when deemed necessary is a fact of our strength, not weakness
threaten the United States, he said we must "assume the worst." Essentially, the White House is proposing that the
computer systems.
we could go and stop the Soviets and all their expansionist hijinks, but then we'd like, have to go all the way over to
Another Australian tourist, 18-year-old Rachel Hughes, said she and her boyfriend had just arrived in Kuta when the blast
United States invade a distant country without any evidence of impending aggression.
news editors of Cannel 7 to allow, as the segment ended right there.
Russia and shit. Besides, it's just the Russians. Why don't we just contain them or something? Hey, who's up for some
I simply love it when my case is made for me.
let you know when there's a mushroom cloud over New York, because that's the only "final proof" that seems to be able to
nuclear weapons. Containment was born out of a realization that we were effectively restrained by our lack of strategic
the world to stomach the imperial scent of our newly enunciated military doctrine that proposes pre- emption of any powerful
According to the president, "we cannot wait for the final proof" that Saddam Hussein's government is planning an imminent
chanting in his face and moved in front of him every time he tried to get around her.
I tried to present my ideas in an honest and truthful way, and not be seriously offensive, even when he acted in ways
it is shoved, in all its detailed horror, right into my face.
attack against the United States. Even though President Bush acknowledged in his speech that Iraq does not currently
The book details the ways that employees can inadvertently leak information that can be exploited by hackers to compromise
military action to counter the Soviet threat was not possible, because of their equal capacity to destroy us through
Replace "powerful" with "crazy and armed with nukes" and you'd be right. Otherwise, your statement is nonsense.
by both Instapundit and Cold Fury (and probably by sundry others by now):
getting an education. When she tried to talk to one of the organizers after her test about how some people were just
without regard to whether the loss is due to the growth of a heartless and all-absorbing commercialism,
Heaven forfend them not being on board with us!
to roost," those sniveling, carping appeasers,
why she thought there weren't more stories about protests going on in the news, "Well, because the media is corporately
for the life of me, cannot see it. The news showed a clip of a guy trying politely to walk around a woman so self-righteous
The experience made me think of the instructions from all corners of the media after 9/11 that what we, as Americans,
the efforts to find these people and eradicate them, to ferret them out from their cowardly hiding places and vaporize
superiority.
It is time for a new day to dawn in the Blogosphere, my gnome brothers. A glorious day. A day when no longer will we
Stand up to these thugs This Wednesday, the 16th at noon, an apparent composite of the Students for Justice in Palestine
United States invade a distant country without any evidence of impending aggression.
Whereas the Cold War doctrine of deterrence and containment rested on strength, the new idea of pre-emption insists on U.S.
and you'll get diversity in the speech by the politician, in the one by the principal who welcomes him and in the one by
When they aired some actual interviews with the protesters, I started to honestly think they were part of some sort of
Anyway, take the new site for a test drive. Take her easy on the clutch and go steady on the hills, and I think you'll
Already, even if the UN thumbs its irrelevant nose at the idea of going after Iraq (and if it actually does, then they'll
During the last half of the 20th century, this principle was expanded internationally through the United Nations. The U.N.
the not-being-a-jerk department.
be replacing the old site that was hosted on that evil of evils, that bane of banes, that something-really-awful of
Really, how often is someone able to so perfectly crystallize the dilemmas that will exist a century in the future
I wish that I could just be told "Hundreds of people died in a terrorist bombing today," and instantly feel the kind of rage
If and when you find one, that means that I'll be perfectly willing to advocate an attack against them as well.
Don't worry, I'll sit here with my rifle ready to take out any airborne porcines, should they come flying by.
computer systems.
I was already in a state of "moving on" and being "over it" before I even heard about the Bali attacks, with the result
But for now if you all don't mind, I'd just like to stew in my rage for a while, and remind myself in a truly visceral
and the decisions to do so would based on (as in this case) measured calculations of the relative benefits and costs,
The BBC has a story about the so-called "master hacker", in which it does a good job of destroying the mythos that
the way. Apparently that wasn't enough for the however, because they then started pulling at her legs to keep her from
No nation deserves to exist if it permits itself to lose the stern and virile virtues; and this
Heaven forfend them not being on board with us!
but they make up for any lack of actual existence with pure unadulterated enthusiasm.
why she thought there weren't more stories about protests going on in the news, "Well, because the media is corporately
Peace is generally good in itself, but it is never the highest good unless it comes as the handmaid
again soon, didn't we?"
predictable frequency. Follow a politician to a school photo-op,
The article also points to this site, which maintains a running clock of how long it will be until Mitnick can start
who like to chant slogans and can't come up with any better rhyme than something that has to do with the number "four" and "war."
without end is causing traditional friends of the United States to
threaten the United States, he said we must "assume the worst." Essentially, the White House is proposing that the
The experience made me think of the instructions from all corners of the media after 9/11 that what we, as Americans,
And at most, UN weapons inspectors have delayed conflict by a few years, not averted it. In actualyity, I think they have
that blatantly called for some rhetorical bitch-slapping.
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One middle-aged woman who looked like she hadn't combed her hair since Jerry Garcia died had this to say, when asked
Peace is generally good in itself, but it is never the highest good unless it comes as the handmaid
side of the political spectrum... what are they called?
jerkwad I encounter, an order for them to be beheaded with extreme prejudice until the the point at which they are dead
The article also points to this site, which maintains a running clock of how long it will be until Mitnick can start
Anyway, take the new site for a test drive. Take her easy on the clutch and go steady on the hills, and I think you'll
join the majority of the world's nations in distancing themselves from Washington in a fashion not seen since the Vietnam War.
obviously they have lost loved ones or friends."
Whereas the Cold War doctrine of deterrence and containment rested on strength, the new idea of pre-emption insists on U.S.
she can last 6 hours). I make this declaration keeping in mind that this does not imply a judgement on the Idiotarian
destroying the technological infrastructure of Western civilization again. And it's only 3 months away!
Anyway, take the new site for a test drive. Take her easy on the clutch and go steady on the hills, and I think you'll
Don't you people ever get tired of just pulling shit out of your asses?
weapons inspections in Iraq represent a good example of how the rule of law has been used, and can be used again, to avert
Whereas the Cold War doctrine of deterrence and containment rested on strength, the new idea of pre-emption insists on U.S.
If a good education is meant to produce independent thinkers, I've seen precious little evidence it does. Education is
who like to chant slogans and can't come up with any better rhyme than something that has to do with the number "four" and "war."
Sure, it'd be nice to be a leader...
when you apply your own internal calculus of death and suffering and conclude that it isn't something that you need
Maybe I can't change the fact that I have to be intimately confronted with the death and pain in order to really feel the
the not-being-a-jerk department.
If a good education is meant to produce independent thinkers, I've seen precious little evidence it does. Education is
I have to admit I'm pretty curious just to see what he's going to do. The guy has shown himself to have an overpowering
to make the first world poor and make sure the third world stays that way.
US: Italy, Australia, Poland, Spain, Qatar, Kuwait and, of course, Britain. I know it's hard to find out this kind of
conflict.
Containment and deterrence were responses to US weakness, you silly-headed dunderpate. It was obvious that using direct
My sentences, thus decreed, will be subsequently carried out by my elite brigade of Beheading Gnomes, whom I made up
I have to admit I'm pretty curious just to see what he's going to do. The guy has shown himself to have an overpowering
Sure, it'd be nice to be a leader...
"A bunch of people died from terrorism over the weekend? Sure, that's awful, but we all knew this was going to happen
But I am thankful that at least for now, I've been able to summon that deep-seated, personal wrath so appropriate to an
I was already in a state of "moving on" and being "over it" before I even heard about the Bali attacks, with the result
on the civilized world. And when I resort again to that frame of mind, it will be because I realize, intellectually and
hacky-sack?"
Now of course I'm sure that these open-toed folks have a flurry of perfectly well thought-out reasons as to why pissing
During that protest, my girlfriend had to take a midterm in Wheeler auditorium and had to step over the bodies lying in
No nation deserves to exist if it permits itself to lose the stern and virile virtues; and this
that continues to characterize the US as the Great Satan and preach jihad against all things Western? Oh I know, the Muslim
of constant uncertainty and increased insecurity where almost anything could lead to war.
Falwell was a "mercenary and must be killed," the Farsi-language daily Abrar reported Saturday.
Now of course I'm sure that these open-toed folks have a flurry of perfectly well thought-out reasons as to why pissing
I see. Did you talk to this "everyone" at your International Socialist Organization direct action planning seminar or
vaunted proof of yours. Then you could be really sure.
world that even today harbors and offers succor to the same groups that piloted the 9/11 planes, right?
just now. Admittedly they do face significant challenges in carrying out their duties due to their imaginary nature,
Stand up to these thugs This Wednesday, the 16th at noon, an apparent composite of the Students for Justice in Palestine
by both Instapundit and Cold Fury (and probably by sundry others by now):
For that reason and others, I didn't actually start reading the news coverage until this morning.
really just put Saddam in a better situation than he was before because the presence of inspectors invites complacency and
nuclear weapons. Containment was born out of a realization that we were effectively restrained by our lack of strategic
Why are you still here?!
the Feds know about it.
looks like a green light, no?
Well that's not really true. People on a different side of the debate than I are not necessarily jerks, just wrong.
jerkwad I encounter, an order for them to be beheaded with extreme prejudice until the the point at which they are dead
The article also points to this site, which maintains a running clock of how long it will be until Mitnick can start
about equal probability.
join the majority of the world's nations in distancing themselves from Washington in a fashion not seen since the Vietnam War.
weapons inspections in Iraq represent a good example of how the rule of law has been used, and can be used again, to avert
Whereas the Cold War doctrine of deterrence and containment rested on strength, the new idea of pre-emption insists on U.S.
who has been deprived of food for at least 6 hours - sounds like an unusually cruel thing to do, I know, but I'm sure
The article also points to this site, which maintains a running clock of how long it will be until Mitnick can start
agree that [insert additional badly-forced car metaphor here]!
Don't you people ever get tired of just pulling shit out of your asses?
obviously they have lost loved ones or friends."
Eventually he got a little ticked off and said roughly, "Get away from me!" I was hungrily anticipating the energetic dissenter
I'll get a chance to ask why they've been glorifying images of Hamas murderers on their flyers.
over the heads of the world's nations as threat so that he can act willy-nilly in whatever new adventure captures his
I wish that I could just be told "Hundreds of people died in a terrorist bombing today," and instantly feel the kind of rage
so that he will be better equipped to fulfill point 1). Show me another nation that's like that today.
weapons inspections in Iraq represent a good example of how the rule of law has been used, and can be used again, to avert
You must be triple jointed to be able to twist words like that.
If a good education is meant to produce independent thinkers, I've seen precious little evidence it does. Education is
Heh. Didn't Nostradamus write something about "a bespeckled plague rising in the West..."?
But it's not really fair to denigrate someone's ideas just because they themselves come from an organization riddled with
only be revealed as more useless than it already seems), there is right now a coalition prepared to go into Iraq with the
obviously they have lost loved ones or friends."
news editors of Cannel 7 to allow, as the segment ended right there.
be replacing the old site that was hosted on that evil of evils, that bane of banes, that something-really-awful of
Bush also spoke of an "international coalition" that would disarm Hussein. Bush knows the American public is loathe to
democratically decided laws - - not the capriciousness of individual rulers -- should govern human affairs.
What it does not mean however, is that this suddenly signals that we are going to be going after China, Saudi Arabia, Cuba
Now at this point, most people would just say, "let it go, and move on."
news editors of Cannel 7 to allow, as the segment ended right there.
fact that these people are thugs, bullies and liars.
Please. I can't swing around a dead Saddam on a rope without hitting this argument these days. At bottom, it's a slippery
"The death of that man is a religious duty, but his case should not be tied to the Christian community," Shabestari,
off a bunch of secretaries and other office workers who probably agree with them on the war anyway will further their
getting an education. When she tried to talk to one of the organizers after her test about how some people were just
without regard to whether the loss is due to the growth of a heartless and all-absorbing commercialism,
That is, until this morning. Now I'm glad to say that I've gotten over getting over it, and am thoroughly pissed again.
to roost," those sniveling, carping appeasers,
It seems the Muslim version of a slander suit is cutting off your head. Now when I read this I was shocked, just shocked
off a bunch of secretaries and other office workers who probably agree with them on the war anyway will further their
trying to get an education
assures everyone that "Don't worry, the problem is being taking care of by the inspectors."
that blatantly called for some rhetorical bitch-slapping.
but they make up for any lack of actual existence with pure unadulterated enthusiasm.
and the UC Divestment folks will be holding a rally for what looks like the primary purpose of protesting the fact that
United States invade a distant country without any evidence of impending aggression.
vulnerability.
(or to have their genitalia eviscerated by a rabid Rosie O'Donnell
Heh. Didn't Nostradamus write something about "a bespeckled plague rising in the West..."?
Anyway, take the new site for a test drive. Take her easy on the clutch and go steady on the hills, and I think you'll
Already, even if the UN thumbs its irrelevant nose at the idea of going after Iraq (and if it actually does, then they'll
conflict.
"The lethal combination is when you exploit both people and technology," Mr Mitnick told BBC News Online.
I'll get a chance to ask why they've been glorifying images of Hamas murderers on their flyers.
over the heads of the world's nations as threat so that he can act willy-nilly in whatever new adventure captures his
I wish that I could just be told "Hundreds of people died in a terrorist bombing today," and instantly feel the kind of rage
Don't you people ever get tired of just pulling shit out of your asses?
I guess not. The fact that the UN is anything but democratic since the vast majority of countries represented there do not
vulnerability.
the teacher trying to impress both of them.
curiosity that trumps any sort of legal resriction placed on him, but it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that he's
economic stupidity, especially when their ideas would do such a better job of it by themselves. Case in point:
to really concern yourself with, except in a somewhat general, theoretical way.
Don't worry, I'll sit here with my rifle ready to take out any airborne porcines, should they come flying by.
news editors of Cannel 7 to allow, as the segment ended right there.
something-really-awfuls, BlogSpot.
psychopathic fancy without fear of retribution.
I simply love it when my case is made for me.
cause, but I,
getting an education. When she tried to talk to one of the organizers after her test about how some people were just
to prolonged indulgence in luxury and soft, effortless ease, or to the deification of a warped and twisted sentimentality.
Heaven forfend them not being on board with us!
slope proposition, claiming that because we go after Saddam, we'll suddenly be all aggro-ed up to obliterate any country
why she thought there weren't more stories about protests going on in the news, "Well, because the media is corporately
sloth, or as an instrument to further the ends of despotism or anarchy.
But anyway, right there you've got yourself eight nations total in the coalition, hailing from North America, both western
really just put Saddam in a better situation than he was before because the presence of inspectors invites complacency and
that blatantly called for some rhetorical bitch-slapping.
to make the first world poor and make sure the third world stays that way.
join the majority of the world's nations in distancing themselves from Washington in a fashion not seen since the Vietnam War.
During the last half of the 20th century, this principle was expanded internationally through the United Nations. The U.N.
However, several of the exchanges I have had have definately been with those you might describe as "challeneged" in
she can last 6 hours). I make this declaration keeping in mind that this does not imply a judgement on the Idiotarian
destroying the technological infrastructure of Western civilization again. And it's only 3 months away!
Replace "powerful" with "crazy and armed with nukes" and you'd be right. Otherwise, your statement is nonsense.
of the mass moron movement.
I'm going to be checking the weather channel for reports of snowflakes in Hell, but meanwhile you should go read it now.
Eventually he got a little ticked off and said roughly, "Get away from me!" I was hungrily anticipating the energetic dissenter
I finally went and did it.
Really, how often is someone able to so perfectly crystallize the dilemmas that will exist a century in the future
I wish that I could just be told "Hundreds of people died in a terrorist bombing today," and instantly feel the kind of rage
At the very least, don't let me hear any of these things when you're standing in my presence, unless you want a faceful
the way. Apparently that wasn't enough for the however, because they then started pulling at her legs to keep her from
vaunted proof of yours. Then you could be really sure.
world that even today harbors and offers succor to the same groups that piloted the 9/11 planes, right?
Please. I can't swing around a dead Saddam on a rope without hitting this argument these days. At bottom, it's a slippery
Iranian cleric Mohsen Mojtahed Shabestari, addressing weekly Friday prayers in the northwestern town of Tabriz, said
has been built up around Mitnick, a basically curious guy who just as often used old face-to-face (or voice-to-voice)
A taste, just a taste...
No nation deserves to exist if it permits itself to lose the stern and virile virtues; and this
world that even today harbors and offers succor to the same groups that piloted the 9/11 planes, right?
But for now if you all don't mind, I'd just like to stew in my rage for a while, and remind myself in a truly visceral
"The death of that man is a religious duty, but his case should not be tied to the Christian community," Shabestari,
The BBC has a story about the so-called "master hacker", in which it does a good job of destroying the mythos that
and eastern Europe, Australia and the middle east. Is that not multilateralism?
act such as this. In a few days or weeks, I'm sure it will subside to a colder, more focused resolution to continue to
superiority.
The fact that this is being published in the Chronicle is no small feat. Even more reason for you to go read it.
owned," she pontificated, in that snotty "52% of my clothes are made of hemp which therefore makes me morally superior
During the last half of the 20th century, this principle was expanded internationally through the United Nations. The U.N.
Well that's not really true. People on a different side of the debate than I are not necessarily jerks, just wrong.
(or to have their genitalia eviscerated by a rabid Rosie O'Donnell
The article also points to this site, which maintains a running clock of how long it will be until Mitnick can start
Anyway, take the new site for a test drive. Take her easy on the clutch and go steady on the hills, and I think you'll
Don't you people ever get tired of just pulling shit out of your asses?
coming off them. It was really a terrible sight," she said. "You could just hear people crying up in the Bounty foyer -
Eventually he got a little ticked off and said roughly, "Get away from me!" I was hungrily anticipating the energetic dissenter
In your face, Space Coyote!
Saddam will use these nukes when he gets them, whether that use takes the form of vaporizing a city or merely being hung
Replace "powerful" with "crazy and armed with nukes" and you'd be right. Otherwise, your statement is nonsense.
of righteousness; and it becomes a very evil thing if it serves merely as a mask for cowardice and
trying to get an education
"to prolonged indulgence in luxury and soft, effortless ease, or to the deification of a warped and twisted sentimentality"?
I figured that was the way to go. But then I read this.
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