The Great Libertarian Horde has landed upon the shores of Blogitania, and now descend with ferocious anti-government eyes scouring the countryside to skewer upon their razored arguments the plump sacred cows of Social Security and the War on Drugs and feast upon the fat of the statist land.
Yes, Reason now has a blog. Read and be happy.
(But don’t make fun of their horned hats.)
sloth, or as an instrument to further the ends of despotism or anarchy.Such as this quote by Teddy Roosevelt concerning his acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize, posted now
Hesiod over at Counterspin Central is one such fellow. Not only with myself, but in his conversations with Den Beste,
go it alone. What he failed to do was tell us who the members of his war coalition are. Why? Because there is no coalition.
that I hadn't thought of it first!
we despise no less the coward and the voluptuary. No man is worth calling a man who will not fight
that blatantly called for some rhetorical bitch-slapping.
to make the first world poor and make sure the third world stays that way.
I've been blogging since July 2005, and in that time, I've had a few inter-blog arguments with the folks on the other
off a bunch of secretaries and other office workers who probably agree with them on the war anyway will further their
to make the first world poor and make sure the third world stays that way.
Wheeler Hall last spring.
without regard to whether the loss is due to the growth of a heartless and all-absorbing commercialism,
a terrorist and an envoy of Iran's supreme leader reportedly called for his death.
by both Instapundit and Cold Fury (and probably by sundry others by now):
The book details the ways that employees can inadvertently leak information that can be exploited by hackers to compromise
I was already in a state of "moving on" and being "over it" before I even heard about the Bali attacks, with the result
to make the first world poor and make sure the third world stays that way.
I guess not. The fact that the UN is anything but democratic since the vast majority of countries represented there do not
Many in the global community also distrust the Bush administration's expanding war aims. It is not easy for our friends around
You mean everyone in America aren't like San Franciscans?
During that protest, my girlfriend had to take a midterm in Wheeler auditorium and had to step over the bodies lying in
In your face, Space Coyote!
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nothing may stand in our way!
for the life of me, cannot see it. The news showed a clip of a guy trying politely to walk around a woman so self-righteous
Hesiod over at Counterspin Central is one such fellow. Not only with myself, but in his conversations with Den Beste,
fact that these people are thugs, bullies and liars.
the real fault of that government or its citizens, or the West in general, or capitalism, or any other ridiculous boogeyman
To quote a boozed up, cynical and misanthropic individual whom I greatly admire: "Making fun of these people is like
"I said it's being taken care of, dammit. Mind your own business."
curiosity that trumps any sort of legal resriction placed on him, but it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that he's
University or Diversity
rather than submit to infamy or see those that are dear to him suffer wrong.
That is, until this morning. Now I'm glad to say that I've gotten over getting over it, and am thoroughly pissed again.
But it's not really fair to denigrate someone's ideas just because they themselves come from an organization riddled with
cause, but I,
Hesiod over at Counterspin Central is one such fellow. Not only with myself, but in his conversations with Den Beste,
the world to stomach the imperial scent of our newly enunciated military doctrine that proposes pre- emption of any powerful
Watching Channel 7 news today (the Simpsons were in a commercial), they reported on a wad of dingbats who blocked access
But anyway, right there you've got yourself eight nations total in the coalition, hailing from North America, both western
she can last 6 hours). I make this declaration keeping in mind that this does not imply a judgement on the Idiotarian
slope proposition, claiming that because we go after Saddam, we'll suddenly be all aggro-ed up to obliterate any country
to all of you warmongering neanderthals" tone of voice. She then struck a pose of righteous exasperation when she asked
To quote a boozed up, cynical and misanthropic individual whom I greatly admire: "Making fun of these people is like
Well, being the abject conformist that I am, I would like to welcome all new and oldcomers to my new blog, which will
Why are you still here?!
I don't know about you people, but I'm already stocking up on extra food, water, and electrons.
side of the political spectrum... what are they called?
I was already in a state of "moving on" and being "over it" before I even heard about the Bali attacks, with the result
the way. Apparently that wasn't enough for the however, because they then started pulling at her legs to keep her from
When they aired some actual interviews with the protesters, I started to honestly think they were part of some sort of
I don't know about you people, but I'm already stocking up on extra food, water, and electrons.
I suppose you mean that it's not "multilateralist" unless France says so?
to elicit empathy had been raised considerably since 9/11,
but they make up for any lack of actual existence with pure unadulterated enthusiasm.
If and when you find one, that means that I'll be perfectly willing to advocate an attack against them as well.
I suppose you mean that it's not "multilateralist" unless France says so?
something-really-awfuls, BlogSpot.
alternative economy." I suppose that's better PR than saying they want to impose a grab bag full of sociialistic silliness
attack against the United States. Even though President Bush acknowledged in his speech that Iraq does not currently
You must be triple jointed to be able to twist words like that.
world that even today harbors and offers succor to the same groups that piloted the 9/11 planes, right?
to make the first world poor and make sure the third world stays that way.
cause, but I,
vulnerability.
nuclear weapons. Containment was born out of a realization that we were effectively restrained by our lack of strategic
Sure, it'd be nice to be a leader...
which is all about the biggest threat to the security of all companies: their own employees.
that extended anger and sadness bring, or maybe even from just the fact that my threshold of human suffering sufficient
about equal probability.
economic stupidity, especially when their ideas would do such a better job of it by themselves. Case in point:
for the life of me, cannot see it. The news showed a clip of a guy trying politely to walk around a woman so self-righteous
Do you mean the Muslim world that celebrated 9/11, saying the US deserved it all along? Or perhaps you mean the Muslim world
The fact that this is being published in the Chronicle is no small feat. Even more reason for you to go read it.
to the San Francisco federal building to protest the passage of Bush's resolution for action against Iraq.
US: Italy, Australia, Poland, Spain, Qatar, Kuwait and, of course, Britain. I know it's hard to find out this kind of
I finally went and did it.
to make the first world poor and make sure the third world stays that way.
According to the president, "we cannot wait for the final proof" that Saddam Hussein's government is planning an imminent
which is all about the biggest threat to the security of all companies: their own employees.
military action to counter the Soviet threat was not possible, because of their equal capacity to destroy us through
Shiite Muslim clerics in Lebanon and Iran have reacted with rage at the Rev. Jerry Falwell for calling Islam's prophet
I simply love it when my case is made for me.
sloth, or as an instrument to further the ends of despotism or anarchy.
I tried to present my ideas in an honest and truthful way, and not be seriously offensive, even when he acted in ways
Iranian cleric Mohsen Mojtahed Shabestari, addressing weekly Friday prayers in the northwestern town of Tabriz, said
coming off them. It was really a terrible sight," she said. "You could just hear people crying up in the Bounty foyer -
vaunted proof of yours. Then you could be really sure.
I tried to present my ideas in an honest and truthful way, and not be seriously offensive, even when he acted in ways
But it's not really fair to denigrate someone's ideas just because they themselves come from an organization riddled with
United States invade a distant country without any evidence of impending aggression.
news editors of Cannel 7 to allow, as the segment ended right there.
...but there's no shame in being a follower when those you're following make such damn good points.
the efforts to find these people and eradicate them, to ferret them out from their cowardly hiding places and vaporize
hacky-sack?"
"Standing in the foyer of the Bounty Hotel, people were just walking in, blood dripping off them, burns to their face, skin
which is all about the biggest threat to the security of all companies: their own employees.
and make them wish that congress had instead passed a resolution authorizing military force against people
agree that [insert additional badly-forced car metaphor here]!
conflict.
without regard to whether the loss is due to the growth of a heartless and all-absorbing commercialism,
When they aired some actual interviews with the protesters, I started to honestly think they were part of some sort of
"Standing in the foyer of the Bounty Hotel, people were just walking in, blood dripping off them, burns to their face, skin
satisfy you. I'd be much more amendable to the idea however if you were willing to be a personal eye-witness to this
military action to counter the Soviet threat was not possible, because of their equal capacity to destroy us through
to make the first world poor and make sure the third world stays that way.
I don't know about you people, but I'm already stocking up on extra food, water, and electrons.
the not-being-a-jerk department.
So welcome. If this is the first and/or only post you can see, it means I haven't imported my archives from Blogspot yet,
agree that [insert additional badly-forced car metaphor here]!
by both Instapundit and Cold Fury (and probably by sundry others by now):
The book details the ways that employees can inadvertently leak information that can be exploited by hackers to compromise
It may be a sad illustration of my lack to find sympathy within myself without reading descriptions or seeing pictures,
You mean everyone in America aren't like San Franciscans?
President Bush says he wants to avoid "a future of fear." It's an admirable goal, but one hardly served by this new doctrine.
The Muslim world -- whose support is vital to any real effort to end the causes of terrorism -- is adamantly opposed.
but I hope to do that soon. I also hope to win the Nobel Prize in Kickboxing, and judge each of those things to be of
so that he will be better equipped to fulfill point 1). Show me another nation that's like that today.
But anyway, right there you've got yourself eight nations total in the coalition, hailing from North America, both western
Also, I've printed out and made a bunch of copies of some flyers from this site and will be passing them out.
War, by three fellows that hail from Global Exchange. You know who I'm talking about. The folks that want to "build an
Kevin Mitnick will be able to use a computer again in approximately 3 months.
The experience made me think of the instructions from all corners of the media after 9/11 that what we, as Americans,
she can last 6 hours). I make this declaration keeping in mind that this does not imply a judgement on the Idiotarian
in words so much more exacting than even those who actually live in that time would be able to produce?
that I hadn't thought of it first!
really just put Saddam in a better situation than he was before because the presence of inspectors invites complacency and
Saddam will use these nukes when he gets them, whether that use takes the form of vaporizing a city or merely being hung
the Feds know about it.
a careful, precise argument, what point is there in engaging them verbally anymore?
No nation deserves to exist if it permits itself to lose the stern and virile virtues; and this
Shiite Muslim clerics in Lebanon and Iran have reacted with rage at the Rev. Jerry Falwell for calling Islam's prophet
...but there's no shame in being a follower when those you're following make such damn good points.
One middle-aged woman who looked like she hadn't combed her hair since Jerry Garcia died had this to say, when asked
Really, how often is someone able to so perfectly crystallize the dilemmas that will exist a century in the future
has been built up around Mitnick, a basically curious guy who just as often used old face-to-face (or voice-to-voice)
the teacher trying to impress both of them.
"approach parody" is too mild. They sprinted towards parody, jumped on top of it and proceded to give parody a spirited
attack against the United States. Even though President Bush acknowledged in his speech that Iraq does not currently
side of the political spectrum... what are they called?
So welcome. If this is the first and/or only post you can see, it means I haven't imported my archives from Blogspot yet,
course grew out of the experience of 9/11.
I guess not. The fact that the UN is anything but democratic since the vast majority of countries represented there do not
of a lack of imagination or basic humanity; the fact that it's difficult for me to feel deeply for people suffering unless
Don't worry, I'll sit here with my rifle ready to take out any airborne porcines, should they come flying by.
Containment and deterrence were responses to US weakness, you silly-headed dunderpate. It was obvious that using direct
to roost," those sniveling, carping appeasers,
some of their cohorts are actually being held accountable by the university for their disruptive, illegal actions at
vaunted proof of yours. Then you could be really sure.
join the majority of the world's nations in distancing themselves from Washington in a fashion not seen since the Vietnam War.
let you know when there's a mushroom cloud over New York, because that's the only "final proof" that seems to be able to
Now could someone please tell me what concrete purpose that woman's behavior, and that of her great chanting unwashed bretheren,
rivals.
According to the president, "we cannot wait for the final proof" that Saddam Hussein's government is planning an imminent
Eventually he got a little ticked off and said roughly, "Get away from me!" I was hungrily anticipating the energetic dissenter
that blatantly called for some rhetorical bitch-slapping.
Russia and shit. Besides, it's just the Russians. Why don't we just contain them or something? Hey, who's up for some
occurred, smashing the window of their hotel room.
faith at large, since many of them are peaceful, albeit intellectually stunted, people.
lap dance.
Peace is generally good in itself, but it is never the highest good unless it comes as the handmaid
Containment and deterrence were responses to US weakness, you silly-headed dunderpate. It was obvious that using direct
Heaven forfend them not being on board with us!
agree that [insert additional badly-forced car metaphor here]!
lying in order to gain information that gave him access to restricted systems.
You must be triple jointed to be able to twist words like that.
War, by three fellows that hail from Global Exchange. You know who I'm talking about. The folks that want to "build an
Watching Channel 7 news today (the Simpsons were in a commercial), they reported on a wad of dingbats who blocked access
The experience made me think of the instructions from all corners of the media after 9/11 that what we, as Americans,
Also, I've printed out and made a bunch of copies of some flyers from this site and will be passing them out.
way why we're doing all of this, and why, if they still choose to berate us about "root causes" and "birds coming home
only be revealed as more useless than it already seems), there is right now a coalition prepared to go into Iraq with the
Diversity. More than motherhood, it is the one unassailable concept these days. Open any teaching publication, and you will
on the civilized world. And when I resort again to that frame of mind, it will be because I realize, intellectually and
I figured that was the way to go. But then I read this.
My sentences, thus decreed, will be subsequently carried out by my elite brigade of Beheading Gnomes, whom I made up
by both Instapundit and Cold Fury (and probably by sundry others by now):
needed now was healing, closure; in short, to "get over it" and "move on."
faith at large, since many of them are peaceful, albeit intellectually stunted, people.
Quite the contrary, Bush's aggressive rhetoric, disregard for international law, and his lack of any vision other than war
some of their cohorts are actually being held accountable by the university for their disruptive, illegal actions at
making a point of reading in depth about any such future atrocity to ensure that I don't allow myself to be instantly "over it."
over the heads of the world's nations as threat so that he can act willy-nilly in whatever new adventure captures his
Meanwhile, the fact that we are able to use pre-emptive action when deemed necessary is a fact of our strength, not weakness
find testimonials to diversity. Flip through any recent social sciences or humanities textbook and diversity pops up with
When they aired some actual interviews with the protesters, I started to honestly think they were part of some sort of
Already, even if the UN thumbs its irrelevant nose at the idea of going after Iraq (and if it actually does, then they'll
to get a good smack upside the head (or as I call it, a "hippie hello"), but that was apparently too much for the niggardly
50 Ways to Leave Your Folly Common Dreams, that goldmine of general silliness, showcases this piece, The Folly of Pre-emptive
You mean everyone in America aren't like San Franciscans?
or any other simply crappy country in the world, because none of them satisfy both those propositions.
that extended anger and sadness bring, or maybe even from just the fact that my threshold of human suffering sufficient
War, by three fellows that hail from Global Exchange. You know who I'm talking about. The folks that want to "build an
Watching Channel 7 news today (the Simpsons were in a commercial), they reported on a wad of dingbats who blocked access
In fact, the idea of pre- emptive attack depends on fear. It presupposes insecurity and assumes we will always be threatened.
military action to counter the Soviet threat was not possible, because of their equal capacity to destroy us through
alternative economy." I suppose that's better PR than saying they want to impose a grab bag full of sociialistic silliness
attack against the United States. Even though President Bush acknowledged in his speech that Iraq does not currently
satisfy you. I'd be much more amendable to the idea however if you were willing to be a personal eye-witness to this
without regard to whether the loss is due to the growth of a heartless and all-absorbing commercialism,
I have to admit I'm pretty curious just to see what he's going to do. The guy has shown himself to have an overpowering
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Don't worry, I'll sit here with my rifle ready to take out any airborne porcines, should they come flying by.
the efforts to find these people and eradicate them, to ferret them out from their cowardly hiding places and vaporize
curiosity that trumps any sort of legal resriction placed on him, but it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that he's
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the way. Apparently that wasn't enough for the however, because they then started pulling at her legs to keep her from
be replacing the old site that was hosted on that evil of evils, that bane of banes, that something-really-awful of
slope proposition, claiming that because we go after Saddam, we'll suddenly be all aggro-ed up to obliterate any country
cause, but I,
Do you mean the Muslim world that celebrated 9/11, saying the US deserved it all along? Or perhaps you mean the Muslim world
If and when you find one, that means that I'll be perfectly willing to advocate an attack against them as well.
Hey, didn't there used to be a city where this smoking crater is?
Russia and shit. Besides, it's just the Russians. Why don't we just contain them or something? Hey, who's up for some
University or Diversity
have democratically elected rulers I'm sure doesn't throw any flies into your ointment.
I strongly suspect TR had access to some sort of time machine and traveled into the furture about a hundred years.
in words so much more exacting than even those who actually live in that time would be able to produce?
that I hadn't thought of it first!
have democratically elected rulers I'm sure doesn't throw any flies into your ointment.
over the heads of the world's nations as threat so that he can act willy-nilly in whatever new adventure captures his
going to be monitored so closely that I'd be surprised if he were able to put in a phony name at a porn site and not have
to all of you warmongering neanderthals" tone of voice. She then struck a pose of righteous exasperation when she asked
But I am thankful that at least for now, I've been able to summon that deep-seated, personal wrath so appropriate to an
who like to chant slogans and can't come up with any better rhyme than something that has to do with the number "four" and "war."
Another Australian tourist, 18-year-old Rachel Hughes, said she and her boyfriend had just arrived in Kuta when the blast
for the life of me, cannot see it. The news showed a clip of a guy trying politely to walk around a woman so self-righteous
Hesiod over at Counterspin Central is one such fellow. Not only with myself, but in his conversations with Den Beste,
Anyway, take the new site for a test drive. Take her easy on the clutch and go steady on the hills, and I think you'll
If and when you find one, that means that I'll be perfectly willing to advocate an attack against them as well.
information with your heads crammed so far up your asses, so I'll give you a pass.
Heaven forfend them not being on board with us!
to make the first world poor and make sure the third world stays that way.
I don't know about you people, but I'm already stocking up on extra food, water, and electrons.
The experience made me think of the instructions from all corners of the media after 9/11 that what we, as Americans,
faith at large, since many of them are peaceful, albeit intellectually stunted, people.
It is time for a new day to dawn in the Blogosphere, my gnome brothers. A glorious day. A day when no longer will we
"A bunch of people died from terrorism over the weekend? Sure, that's awful, but we all knew this was going to happen
and that it wasn't fair for these people to stop them, the girl started literally screaming at her about selfish she was.
fact that these people are thugs, bullies and liars.
nothing may stand in our way!
I've been blogging since July 2005, and in that time, I've had a few inter-blog arguments with the folks on the other
I'll get a chance to ask why they've been glorifying images of Hamas murderers on their flyers.
So welcome. If this is the first and/or only post you can see, it means I haven't imported my archives from Blogspot yet,
Watching Channel 7 news today (the Simpsons were in a commercial), they reported on a wad of dingbats who blocked access
cause, but I,
Eventually he got a little ticked off and said roughly, "Get away from me!" I was hungrily anticipating the energetic dissenter
I tried to present my ideas in an honest and truthful way, and not be seriously offensive, even when he acted in ways
and the decisions to do so would based on (as in this case) measured calculations of the relative benefits and costs,
During the last half of the 20th century, this principle was expanded internationally through the United Nations. The U.N.
find testimonials to diversity. Flip through any recent social sciences or humanities textbook and diversity pops up with
Please. I can't swing around a dead Saddam on a rope without hitting this argument these days. At bottom, it's a slippery
side of the political spectrum... what are they called?
I finally went and did it.
just now. Admittedly they do face significant challenges in carrying out their duties due to their imaginary nature,
But anyway, right there you've got yourself eight nations total in the coalition, hailing from North America, both western
morally, that this is the right thing to do.
why she thought there weren't more stories about protests going on in the news, "Well, because the media is corporately
anger that is so justifiable -no, demanded- by these despicable acts, but if that must be the case, then from on, I'll be
they're done, hang them on his wall next to the framed heads of Iraqi dissidents and say to himself, "Well, I can check
Shiite Muslim clerics in Lebanon and Iran have reacted with rage at the Rev. Jerry Falwell for calling Islam's prophet
So seeing as how we've got massive approval from the House of Representatives and similar support in the senate is likely,
satisfy you. I'd be much more amendable to the idea however if you were willing to be a personal eye-witness to this
Saddam will use these nukes when he gets them, whether that use takes the form of vaporizing a city or merely being hung
going to be monitored so closely that I'd be surprised if he were able to put in a phony name at a porn site and not have
the way. Apparently that wasn't enough for the however, because they then started pulling at her legs to keep her from
Hey, didn't there used to be a city where this smoking crater is?
"approach parody" is too mild. They sprinted towards parody, jumped on top of it and proceded to give parody a spirited
owned," she pontificated, in that snotty "52% of my clothes are made of hemp which therefore makes me morally superior
Well I'm far far far too petty a person to do that.
"I said it's being taken care of, dammit. Mind your own business."
One middle-aged woman who looked like she hadn't combed her hair since Jerry Garcia died had this to say, when asked
"A bunch of people died from terrorism over the weekend? Sure, that's awful, but we all knew this was going to happen
"to prolonged indulgence in luxury and soft, effortless ease, or to the deification of a warped and twisted sentimentality"?
Replace "powerful" with "crazy and armed with nukes" and you'd be right. Otherwise, your statement is nonsense.
What it does not mean however, is that this suddenly signals that we are going to be going after China, Saudi Arabia, Cuba
jerkwad I encounter, an order for them to be beheaded with extreme prejudice until the the point at which they are dead
Really, how often is someone able to so perfectly crystallize the dilemmas that will exist a century in the future
not just "fear," as if we're going to indiscriminantly nuke the floor under our beds because monsters might be hiding there.
let you know when there's a mushroom cloud over New York, because that's the only "final proof" that seems to be able to
military action to counter the Soviet threat was not possible, because of their equal capacity to destroy us through
to make the first world poor and make sure the third world stays that way.
The BBC has a story about the so-called "master hacker", in which it does a good job of destroying the mythos that
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of constant uncertainty and increased insecurity where almost anything could lead to war.
After 3000 of your countrymen die in a couple hours, anything less than that is wont to be downplayed in significance
Don't worry, I'll sit here with my rifle ready to take out any airborne porcines, should they come flying by.
I strongly suspect TR had access to some sort of time machine and traveled into the furture about a hundred years.
jerkwad I encounter, an order for them to be beheaded with extreme prejudice until the the point at which they are dead
it is shoved, in all its detailed horror, right into my face.
to the San Francisco federal building to protest the passage of Bush's resolution for action against Iraq.
getting an education. When she tried to talk to one of the organizers after her test about how some people were just
them into a thin paste of protein on a cave wall, to wipe out every last vestige of the disgusting stain they have left
US: Italy, Australia, Poland, Spain, Qatar, Kuwait and, of course, Britain. I know it's hard to find out this kind of
I tried to present my ideas in an honest and truthful way, and not be seriously offensive, even when he acted in ways
to make the first world poor and make sure the third world stays that way.
of fist.
The Muslim world -- whose support is vital to any real effort to end the causes of terrorism -- is adamantly opposed.
My sentences, thus decreed, will be subsequently carried out by my elite brigade of Beheading Gnomes, whom I made up
In theory, I was of course angry, but I had a vaguely detatched sense about the whole thing. A large part of that of
I see. Did you talk to this "everyone" at your International Socialist Organization direct action planning seminar or
jerkwad I encounter, an order for them to be beheaded with extreme prejudice until the the point at which they are dead
Sure, it'd be nice to be a leader...
Don't worry, I'll sit here with my rifle ready to take out any airborne porcines, should they come flying by.
"What I found personally to be true was that it's easier to manipulate people rather than technology," he said.
it is shoved, in all its detailed horror, right into my face.
The BBC has a story about the so-called "master hacker", in which it does a good job of destroying the mythos that
Well that's not really true. People on a different side of the debate than I are not necessarily jerks, just wrong.
fact that these people are thugs, bullies and liars.
both at home and abroad, can go heartily fuck themselves, or jump off a cliff, or shoot themselves in the head. I don't
the All Men Are Rapists self defense workshop? Surely that must be a representative sample of the country!
jerkwad I encounter, an order for them to be beheaded with extreme prejudice until the the point at which they are dead
psychopathic fancy without fear of retribution.
not just "fear," as if we're going to indiscriminantly nuke the floor under our beds because monsters might be hiding there.
let you know when there's a mushroom cloud over New York, because that's the only "final proof" that seems to be able to
Containment and deterrence were responses to US weakness, you silly-headed dunderpate. It was obvious that using direct
to make the first world poor and make sure the third world stays that way.
off a bunch of secretaries and other office workers who probably agree with them on the war anyway will further their
Well I wouldn't be surprised if this Wednesday at Sproul there will be similar behavior, and I plan to be there. Maybe
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