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East meets…. Middle East
Well this is reason to be frightened. It seems that Bahrain, and the middle east in general, is giving more political power to ninjas, which apparently make up about half the population over there.
This is freakin’ scary.
If we were worried about Islamic terrorism before, then we should really be shitting our pants about the possibilities of Islamic Ninja terrorism. And now that they’re gaining more political and economic power, there is gonna be some serious kung fu fighting in the name of Allah goin’ on.
to all of you warmongering neanderthals" tone of voice. She then struck a pose of righteous exasperation when she askedMr Mitnick even had to get permission from his probation officer to use a computer to write his book, The Art Of Deception,
on the civilized world. And when I resort again to that frame of mind, it will be because I realize, intellectually and
If and when you find one, that means that I'll be perfectly willing to advocate an attack against them as well.
Eventually he got a little ticked off and said roughly, "Get away from me!" I was hungrily anticipating the energetic dissenter
fact that these people are thugs, bullies and liars.
One middle-aged woman who looked like she hadn't combed her hair since Jerry Garcia died had this to say, when asked
about equal probability.
being the reaction described above.
the Feds know about it.
But anyway, right there you've got yourself eight nations total in the coalition, hailing from North America, both western
That is, until this morning. Now I'm glad to say that I've gotten over getting over it, and am thoroughly pissed again.
a careful, precise argument, what point is there in engaging them verbally anymore?
one of the most fad-driven enterprises imaginable. It produces a new catechism each decade, which everyone dutifully recites.
not just "fear," as if we're going to indiscriminantly nuke the floor under our beds because monsters might be hiding there.
coming off them. It was really a terrible sight," she said. "You could just hear people crying up in the Bounty foyer -
Now could someone please tell me what concrete purpose that woman's behavior, and that of her great chanting unwashed bretheren,
Shiite Muslim clerics in Lebanon and Iran have reacted with rage at the Rev. Jerry Falwell for calling Islam's prophet
I simply love it when my case is made for me.
which is all about the biggest threat to the security of all companies: their own employees.
I was already in a state of "moving on" and being "over it" before I even heard about the Bali attacks, with the result
I simply love it when my case is made for me.
chanting in his face and moved in front of him every time he tried to get around her.
serves? As far as I can tell, all they did was take some people who were probably overwhelmingly against the war anyway,
Iranian cleric Mohsen Mojtahed Shabestari, addressing weekly Friday prayers in the northwestern town of Tabriz, said
by both Instapundit and Cold Fury (and probably by sundry others by now):
the not-being-a-jerk department.
being the reaction described above.
Meanwhile, the fact that we are able to use pre-emptive action when deemed necessary is a fact of our strength, not weakness
obviously they have lost loved ones or friends."
vaunted proof of yours. Then you could be really sure.
"to prolonged indulgence in luxury and soft, effortless ease, or to the deification of a warped and twisted sentimentality"?
...but there's no shame in being a follower when those you're following make such damn good points.
again soon, didn't we?"
I'll get a chance to ask why they've been glorifying images of Hamas murderers on their flyers.
The fact that this is being published in the Chronicle is no small feat. Even more reason for you to go read it.
and the UC Divestment folks will be holding a rally for what looks like the primary purpose of protesting the fact that
Maybe I can't change the fact that I have to be intimately confronted with the death and pain in order to really feel the
they're done, hang them on his wall next to the framed heads of Iraqi dissidents and say to himself, "Well, I can check
hacky-sack?"
University or Diversity
hunting dairy cows with a high-powered rifle and scope."
but I hope to do that soon. I also hope to win the Nobel Prize in Kickboxing, and judge each of those things to be of
not just "fear," as if we're going to indiscriminantly nuke the floor under our beds because monsters might be hiding there.
Well that's not really true. People on a different side of the debate than I are not necessarily jerks, just wrong.
something-really-awfuls, BlogSpot.
but I hope to do that soon. I also hope to win the Nobel Prize in Kickboxing, and judge each of those things to be of
At the very least, don't let me hear any of these things when you're standing in my presence, unless you want a faceful
jerkwad I encounter, an order for them to be beheaded with extreme prejudice until the the point at which they are dead
over the heads of the world's nations as threat so that he can act willy-nilly in whatever new adventure captures his
vulnerability.
Quite the contrary, Bush's aggressive rhetoric, disregard for international law, and his lack of any vision other than war
off a bunch of secretaries and other office workers who probably agree with them on the war anyway will further their
I suppose you mean that it's not "multilateralist" unless France says so?
By tossing out any reasonable standards of evidence as a prerequisite for military action, the White House puts us in a state
and the UC Divestment folks will be holding a rally for what looks like the primary purpose of protesting the fact that
anger that is so justifiable -no, demanded- by these despicable acts, but if that must be the case, then from on, I'll be
assures everyone that "Don't worry, the problem is being taking care of by the inspectors."
Either that, or I now have to admit the existence of clairvoyance.
and the UC Divestment folks will be holding a rally for what looks like the primary purpose of protesting the fact that
Diversity. More than motherhood, it is the one unassailable concept these days. Open any teaching publication, and you will
Hey, didn't there used to be a city where this smoking crater is?
slope proposition, claiming that because we go after Saddam, we'll suddenly be all aggro-ed up to obliterate any country
so that he will be better equipped to fulfill point 1). Show me another nation that's like that today.
In fact, the idea of pre- emptive attack depends on fear. It presupposes insecurity and assumes we will always be threatened.
to elicit empathy had been raised considerably since 9/11,
it is shoved, in all its detailed horror, right into my face.
"The death of that man is a religious duty, but his case should not be tied to the Christian community," Shabestari,
Don't worry, I'll sit here with my rifle ready to take out any airborne porcines, should they come flying by.
them into a thin paste of protein on a cave wall, to wipe out every last vestige of the disgusting stain they have left
lap dance.
to all of you warmongering neanderthals" tone of voice. She then struck a pose of righteous exasperation when she asked
getting an education. When she tried to talk to one of the organizers after her test about how some people were just
Well, being the abject conformist that I am, I would like to welcome all new and oldcomers to my new blog, which will
Why are you still here?!
If and when you find one, that means that I'll be perfectly willing to advocate an attack against them as well.
In fact, the idea of pre- emptive attack depends on fear. It presupposes insecurity and assumes we will always be threatened.
that continues to characterize the US as the Great Satan and preach jihad against all things Western? Oh I know, the Muslim
about equal probability.
I simply love it when my case is made for me.
Don't worry, I'll sit here with my rifle ready to take out any airborne porcines, should they come flying by.
Well, being the abject conformist that I am, I would like to welcome all new and oldcomers to my new blog, which will
That is, until this morning. Now I'm glad to say that I've gotten over getting over it, and am thoroughly pissed again.
One of the great advances of the modern era has been the spread of the rule of law. This is the now common idea that
Maybe I can't change the fact that I have to be intimately confronted with the death and pain in order to really feel the
predictable frequency. Follow a politician to a school photo-op,
faith at large, since many of them are peaceful, albeit intellectually stunted, people.
You mean everyone in America aren't like San Franciscans?
has been built up around Mitnick, a basically curious guy who just as often used old face-to-face (or voice-to-voice)
You must be triple jointed to be able to twist words like that.
You try to make it seem as if the Joint Chiefs were lying around on a Sunday afternoon and said to themselves, "Yeah sure,
The experience made me think of the instructions from all corners of the media after 9/11 that what we, as Americans,
rivals.
information with your heads crammed so far up your asses, so I'll give you a pass.
and that it wasn't fair for these people to stop them, the girl started literally screaming at her about selfish she was.
My sentences, thus decreed, will be subsequently carried out by my elite brigade of Beheading Gnomes, whom I made up
care. Just don't let me hear anything about how this bombing that specifically targeted Australian civilians was somehow
Wheeler Hall last spring.
and that it wasn't fair for these people to stop them, the girl started literally screaming at her about selfish she was.
50 Ways to Leave Your Folly Common Dreams, that goldmine of general silliness, showcases this piece, The Folly of Pre-emptive
You mean everyone in America aren't like San Franciscans?
I've been blogging since July 2005, and in that time, I've had a few inter-blog arguments with the folks on the other
Hesiod over at Counterspin Central is one such fellow. Not only with myself, but in his conversations with Den Beste,
the world to stomach the imperial scent of our newly enunciated military doctrine that proposes pre- emption of any powerful
nothing may stand in our way!
you could see stink lines of self-satisfaction coming off her so that he could simply get to his job. She of course started
Saddam is so hot to get his grubby hands on nukes is enough evidence of aggression. What's he going to do with them once
When they aired some actual interviews with the protesters, I started to honestly think they were part of some sort of
"The death of that man is a religious duty, but his case should not be tied to the Christian community," Shabestari,
let you know when there's a mushroom cloud over New York, because that's the only "final proof" that seems to be able to
Those people are especially useful when they have access to the core computer systems that hackers would otherwise struggle
Replace "powerful" with "crazy and armed with nukes" and you'd be right. Otherwise, your statement is nonsense.
The BBC has a story about the so-called "master hacker", in which it does a good job of destroying the mythos that
needed now was healing, closure; in short, to "get over it" and "move on."
over the heads of the world's nations as threat so that he can act willy-nilly in whatever new adventure captures his
democratically decided laws - - not the capriciousness of individual rulers -- should govern human affairs.
you could see stink lines of self-satisfaction coming off her so that he could simply get to his job. She of course started
news editors of Cannel 7 to allow, as the segment ended right there.
we could go and stop the Soviets and all their expansionist hijinks, but then we'd like, have to go all the way over to
According to the president, "we cannot wait for the final proof" that Saddam Hussein's government is planning an imminent
Whereas the Cold War doctrine of deterrence and containment rested on strength, the new idea of pre-emption insists on U.S.
I was already in a state of "moving on" and being "over it" before I even heard about the Bali attacks, with the result
about equal probability.
off a bunch of secretaries and other office workers who probably agree with them on the war anyway will further their
you could see stink lines of self-satisfaction coming off her so that he could simply get to his job. She of course started
use grown-up scissors), but nevertheless, even though he really didn't deserve it,
of a lack of imagination or basic humanity; the fact that it's difficult for me to feel deeply for people suffering unless
cause, but I,
Whereas the Cold War doctrine of deterrence and containment rested on strength, the new idea of pre-emption insists on U.S.
being the reaction described above.
War, by three fellows that hail from Global Exchange. You know who I'm talking about. The folks that want to "build an
and make them wish that congress had instead passed a resolution authorizing military force against people
making a point of reading in depth about any such future atrocity to ensure that I don't allow myself to be instantly "over it."
Russia and shit. Besides, it's just the Russians. Why don't we just contain them or something? Hey, who's up for some
I see. Did you talk to this "everyone" at your International Socialist Organization direct action planning seminar or
Don't you people ever get tired of just pulling shit out of your asses?
that off my list of things to do. Now, on to learning how to square-dance."
the world to stomach the imperial scent of our newly enunciated military doctrine that proposes pre- emption of any powerful
to really concern yourself with, except in a somewhat general, theoretical way.
And at most, UN weapons inspectors have delayed conflict by a few years, not averted it. In actualyity, I think they have
we could go and stop the Soviets and all their expansionist hijinks, but then we'd like, have to go all the way over to
Those people are especially useful when they have access to the core computer systems that hackers would otherwise struggle
of the mass moron movement.
getting an education. When she tried to talk to one of the organizers after her test about how some people were just
the teacher trying to impress both of them.
serves? As far as I can tell, all they did was take some people who were probably overwhelmingly against the war anyway,
One middle-aged woman who looked like she hadn't combed her hair since Jerry Garcia died had this to say, when asked
you could see stink lines of self-satisfaction coming off her so that he could simply get to his job. She of course started
he revealed himself to be a seriously dishonest debater (that, or he was so stupid that it wouldn't be safe for him to
the world to stomach the imperial scent of our newly enunciated military doctrine that proposes pre- emption of any powerful
has been built up around Mitnick, a basically curious guy who just as often used old face-to-face (or voice-to-voice)
The experience made me think of the instructions from all corners of the media after 9/11 that what we, as Americans,
them into a thin paste of protein on a cave wall, to wipe out every last vestige of the disgusting stain they have left
I have to admit I'm pretty curious just to see what he's going to do. The guy has shown himself to have an overpowering
An insightful, well-written and quite simply excellent column somehow found its way in the SF Chronicle's website today.
And exactly how do you go from no "final proof" to there being no evidence of impending aggression? The very fact that
and make them wish that congress had instead passed a resolution authorizing military force against people
"The death of that man is a religious duty, but his case should not be tied to the Christian community," Shabestari,
Peace is generally good in itself, but it is never the highest good unless it comes as the handmaid
computer systems.
I figured that was the way to go. But then I read this.
I simply love it when my case is made for me.
Yes, well I suppose you're suggesting that we would be well-served to wait for this "final proof," then? Very well. I'll
"The lethal combination is when you exploit both people and technology," Mr Mitnick told BBC News Online.
War, by three fellows that hail from Global Exchange. You know who I'm talking about. The folks that want to "build an
has been built up around Mitnick, a basically curious guy who just as often used old face-to-face (or voice-to-voice)
needed now was healing, closure; in short, to "get over it" and "move on."
be replacing the old site that was hosted on that evil of evils, that bane of banes, that something-really-awful of
just now. Admittedly they do face significant challenges in carrying out their duties due to their imaginary nature,
in words so much more exacting than even those who actually live in that time would be able to produce?
the All Men Are Rapists self defense workshop? Surely that must be a representative sample of the country!
Those people are especially useful when they have access to the core computer systems that hackers would otherwise struggle
Replace "powerful" with "crazy and armed with nukes" and you'd be right. Otherwise, your statement is nonsense.
has been built up around Mitnick, a basically curious guy who just as often used old face-to-face (or voice-to-voice)
something-really-awfuls, BlogSpot.
"The death of that man is a religious duty, but his case should not be tied to the Christian community," Shabestari,
Yes, well I suppose you're suggesting that we would be well-served to wait for this "final proof," then? Very well. I'll
military action to counter the Soviet threat was not possible, because of their equal capacity to destroy us through
It is time for a new day to dawn in the Blogosphere, my gnome brothers. A glorious day. A day when no longer will we
Already, even if the UN thumbs its irrelevant nose at the idea of going after Iraq (and if it actually does, then they'll
find testimonials to diversity. Flip through any recent social sciences or humanities textbook and diversity pops up with
"to prolonged indulgence in luxury and soft, effortless ease, or to the deification of a warped and twisted sentimentality"?
lap dance.
vulnerability.
Heaven forfend them not being on board with us!
alternative economy." I suppose that's better PR than saying they want to impose a grab bag full of sociialistic silliness
What it does not mean however, is that this suddenly signals that we are going to be going after China, Saudi Arabia, Cuba
In your face, Space Coyote!
just now. Admittedly they do face significant challenges in carrying out their duties due to their imaginary nature,
he is willing to act aggressively and recklessly and cannot be reasonably deterred and 2) is working to get and use nukes
, "I don't believe the American people support this war. Everyone I've talked to is against it!"
they're done, hang them on his wall next to the framed heads of Iraqi dissidents and say to himself, "Well, I can check
Shiite Muslim clerics in Lebanon and Iran have reacted with rage at the Rev. Jerry Falwell for calling Islam's prophet
off a bunch of secretaries and other office workers who probably agree with them on the war anyway will further their
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If a good education is meant to produce independent thinkers, I've seen precious little evidence it does. Education is
care. Just don't let me hear anything about how this bombing that specifically targeted Australian civilians was somehow
conflict.
No nation deserves to exist if it permits itself to lose the stern and virile virtues; and this
we could go and stop the Soviets and all their expansionist hijinks, but then we'd like, have to go all the way over to
According to the president, "we cannot wait for the final proof" that Saddam Hussein's government is planning an imminent
and eastern Europe, Australia and the middle east. Is that not multilateralism?
on the civilized world. And when I resort again to that frame of mind, it will be because I realize, intellectually and
One middle-aged woman who looked like she hadn't combed her hair since Jerry Garcia died had this to say, when asked
During the last half of the 20th century, this principle was expanded internationally through the United Nations. The U.N.
news editors of Cannel 7 to allow, as the segment ended right there.
You try to make it seem as if the Joint Chiefs were lying around on a Sunday afternoon and said to themselves, "Yeah sure,
occurred, smashing the window of their hotel room.
morally, that this is the right thing to do.
a careful, precise argument, what point is there in engaging them verbally anymore?
world that even today harbors and offers succor to the same groups that piloted the 9/11 planes, right?
to the San Francisco federal building to protest the passage of Bush's resolution for action against Iraq.
A taste, just a taste...
that off my list of things to do. Now, on to learning how to square-dance."
curiosity that trumps any sort of legal resriction placed on him, but it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that he's
and eastern Europe, Australia and the middle east. Is that not multilateralism?
Saddam will use these nukes when he gets them, whether that use takes the form of vaporizing a city or merely being hung
I wish that I could just be told "Hundreds of people died in a terrorist bombing today," and instantly feel the kind of rage
lying in order to gain information that gave him access to restricted systems.
Do you mean the Muslim world that celebrated 9/11, saying the US deserved it all along? Or perhaps you mean the Muslim world
but I hope to do that soon. I also hope to win the Nobel Prize in Kickboxing, and judge each of those things to be of
of the mass moron movement.
In fact, the idea of pre- emptive attack depends on fear. It presupposes insecurity and assumes we will always be threatened.
to elicit empathy had been raised considerably since 9/11,
but I hope to do that soon. I also hope to win the Nobel Prize in Kickboxing, and judge each of those things to be of
attack against the United States. Even though President Bush acknowledged in his speech that Iraq does not currently
The experience made me think of the instructions from all corners of the media after 9/11 that what we, as Americans,
she can last 6 hours). I make this declaration keeping in mind that this does not imply a judgement on the Idiotarian
curiosity that trumps any sort of legal resriction placed on him, but it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that he's
University or Diversity
I guess not. The fact that the UN is anything but democratic since the vast majority of countries represented there do not
over the heads of the world's nations as threat so that he can act willy-nilly in whatever new adventure captures his
One middle-aged woman who looked like she hadn't combed her hair since Jerry Garcia died had this to say, when asked
During the last half of the 20th century, this principle was expanded internationally through the United Nations. The U.N.
And exactly how do you go from no "final proof" to there being no evidence of impending aggression? The very fact that
Shiite Muslim clerics in Lebanon and Iran have reacted with rage at the Rev. Jerry Falwell for calling Islam's prophet
According to the president, "we cannot wait for the final proof" that Saddam Hussein's government is planning an imminent
you could see stink lines of self-satisfaction coming off her so that he could simply get to his job. She of course started
military action to counter the Soviet threat was not possible, because of their equal capacity to destroy us through
of a lack of imagination or basic humanity; the fact that it's difficult for me to feel deeply for people suffering unless
to the San Francisco federal building to protest the passage of Bush's resolution for action against Iraq.
For that reason and others, I didn't actually start reading the news coverage until this morning.
Finally, long after the fad has grown tiresome, everyone's attention turns to another scrap of dogma for the next decade.
to roost," those sniveling, carping appeasers,
Already, even if the UN thumbs its irrelevant nose at the idea of going after Iraq (and if it actually does, then they'll
trying to get an education
something-really-awfuls, BlogSpot.
Well that's not really true. People on a different side of the debate than I are not necessarily jerks, just wrong.
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that I hadn't thought of it first!
find testimonials to diversity. Flip through any recent social sciences or humanities textbook and diversity pops up with
them into a thin paste of protein on a cave wall, to wipe out every last vestige of the disgusting stain they have left
One middle-aged woman who looked like she hadn't combed her hair since Jerry Garcia died had this to say, when asked
I'm going to be checking the weather channel for reports of snowflakes in Hell, but meanwhile you should go read it now.
act such as this. In a few days or weeks, I'm sure it will subside to a colder, more focused resolution to continue to
By tossing out any reasonable standards of evidence as a prerequisite for military action, the White House puts us in a state
In theory, I was of course angry, but I had a vaguely detatched sense about the whole thing. A large part of that of
I mean come on, when you're arguing with someone who's just going to call you a Nazi when you spend 2,000 words making
really just put Saddam in a better situation than he was before because the presence of inspectors invites complacency and
on the civilized world. And when I resort again to that frame of mind, it will be because I realize, intellectually and
without end is causing traditional friends of the United States to
again soon, didn't we?"
Do you mean the Muslim world that celebrated 9/11, saying the US deserved it all along? Or perhaps you mean the Muslim world
It is time for a new day to dawn in the Blogosphere, my gnome brothers. A glorious day. A day when no longer will we
join the majority of the world's nations in distancing themselves from Washington in a fashion not seen since the Vietnam War.
A taste, just a taste...
support (in the small, mostly insignificant ways that are possible for one such as myself)
in words so much more exacting than even those who actually live in that time would be able to produce?
some of their cohorts are actually being held accountable by the university for their disruptive, illegal actions at
I guess not. The fact that the UN is anything but democratic since the vast majority of countries represented there do not
When they aired some actual interviews with the protesters, I started to honestly think they were part of some sort of
hacky-sack?"
An insightful, well-written and quite simply excellent column somehow found its way in the SF Chronicle's website today.
vaunted proof of yours. Then you could be really sure.
who like to chant slogans and can't come up with any better rhyme than something that has to do with the number "four" and "war."
Meanwhile, the fact that we are able to use pre-emptive action when deemed necessary is a fact of our strength, not weakness
that I hadn't thought of it first!
support (in the small, mostly insignificant ways that are possible for one such as myself)
morally, that this is the right thing to do.
and the decisions to do so would based on (as in this case) measured calculations of the relative benefits and costs,
weapons inspections in Iraq represent a good example of how the rule of law has been used, and can be used again, to avert
"What I found personally to be true was that it's easier to manipulate people rather than technology," he said.
but I hope to do that soon. I also hope to win the Nobel Prize in Kickboxing, and judge each of those things to be of
to the San Francisco federal building to protest the passage of Bush's resolution for action against Iraq.
needed now was healing, closure; in short, to "get over it" and "move on."
I urge anyone in the bay area who has the time on the 16th to come as well and lend credence with your example to the
both at home and abroad, can go heartily fuck themselves, or jump off a cliff, or shoot themselves in the head. I don't
The experience made me think of the instructions from all corners of the media after 9/11 that what we, as Americans,
Another Australian tourist, 18-year-old Rachel Hughes, said she and her boyfriend had just arrived in Kuta when the blast
have democratically elected rulers I'm sure doesn't throw any flies into your ointment.
That is, until this morning. Now I'm glad to say that I've gotten over getting over it, and am thoroughly pissed again.
nothing may stand in our way!
I've been blogging since July 2005, and in that time, I've had a few inter-blog arguments with the folks on the other
the not-being-a-jerk department.
I figured that was the way to go. But then I read this.
without regard to whether the loss is due to the growth of a heartless and all-absorbing commercialism,
But it's not really fair to denigrate someone's ideas just because they themselves come from an organization riddled with
getting an education. When she tried to talk to one of the organizers after her test about how some people were just
Hey, didn't there used to be a city where this smoking crater is?
slope proposition, claiming that because we go after Saddam, we'll suddenly be all aggro-ed up to obliterate any country
to really concern yourself with, except in a somewhat general, theoretical way.
But anyway, right there you've got yourself eight nations total in the coalition, hailing from North America, both western
If a good education is meant to produce independent thinkers, I've seen precious little evidence it does. Education is
In theory, I was of course angry, but I had a vaguely detatched sense about the whole thing. A large part of that of
During the last half of the 20th century, this principle was expanded internationally through the United Nations. The U.N.
No nation deserves to exist if it permits itself to lose the stern and virile virtues; and this
The article also points to this site, which maintains a running clock of how long it will be until Mitnick can start
Falwell was a "mercenary and must be killed," the Farsi-language daily Abrar reported Saturday.
for the life of me, cannot see it. The news showed a clip of a guy trying politely to walk around a woman so self-righteous
The Muslim world -- whose support is vital to any real effort to end the causes of terrorism -- is adamantly opposed.
but I hope to do that soon. I also hope to win the Nobel Prize in Kickboxing, and judge each of those things to be of
If and when you find one, that means that I'll be perfectly willing to advocate an attack against them as well.
The experience made me think of the instructions from all corners of the media after 9/11 that what we, as Americans,
I'll get a chance to ask why they've been glorifying images of Hamas murderers on their flyers.
to roost," those sniveling, carping appeasers,
"A bunch of people died from terrorism over the weekend? Sure, that's awful, but we all knew this was going to happen
trying to get an education
be replacing the old site that was hosted on that evil of evils, that bane of banes, that something-really-awful of
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or any other simply crappy country in the world, because none of them satisfy both those propositions.
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