President Musharraf of Pakistan recently said that during the last India/Pakistan crisis, he was perfectly willing to use nukes if any Indian soldier crossed the line into Pakistan.

 

“I personally conveyed messages to (Indian) Prime Minister Vajpayee through every international leader who came to Pakistan, that if Indian troops moved a single step across the international border or Line of Control, they should not expect a conventional war from Pakistan,” he told Pakistani Air Force veterans close up horse sex.

 

Musharraf differs from many of his countrymen in the fact that he is not completely nuts. I think over the last year he has shown himself to be the type who realizes that certain elements in his country must be appeased if he is to remain in power, and the point (at least to a certain extent) of his remaining in power is to actually help Pakistan find its way out of the backwardness of the fundamentalist woods beast chat room. One of the historical figures he most looks up to is Ataturk.

So it perhaps helpful to take these statements with a grain of salt horse sex drawing. For one thing, Musharraf would have known full well that any nuclear attack against India (even invading Indian forces) would cause India to retaliate. Nuking Islamabad itself would be a clear possibility.

It is far less risky to make bellicose statements about what you would have done after the fact than it is to broadcast such threats in the moment of crisis. Furthermore, you have to keep in mind that Musharraf was talking to a group of former military officers, and there is no reason to think that he was not tailoring his message accordingly. Based on this, I don’t think that Pakistan was as close to actually using nuclear weapons as Musharraf might suggest they were.

morally, that this is the right thing to do.
the teacher trying to impress both of them.
going to be monitored so closely that I'd be surprised if he were able to put in a phony name at a porn site and not have
getting an education. When she tried to talk to one of the organizers after her test about how some people were just
Saddam will use these nukes when he gets them, whether that use takes the form of vaporizing a city or merely being hung
Replace "powerful" with "crazy and armed with nukes" and you'd be right. Otherwise, your statement is nonsense.
"A bunch of people died from terrorism over the weekend? Sure, that's awful, but we all knew this was going to happen
really just put Saddam in a better situation than he was before because the presence of inspectors invites complacency and
Bush also spoke of an "international coalition" that would disarm Hussein. Bush knows the American public is loathe to
why she thought there weren't more stories about protests going on in the news, "Well, because the media is corporately
let you know when there's a mushroom cloud over New York, because that's the only "final proof" that seems to be able to
I was already in a state of "moving on" and being "over it" before I even heard about the Bali attacks, with the result
both at home and abroad, can go heartily fuck themselves, or jump off a cliff, or shoot themselves in the head. I don't
, "I don't believe the American people support this war. Everyone I've talked to is against it!"
really just put Saddam in a better situation than he was before because the presence of inspectors invites complacency and
When they aired some actual interviews with the protesters, I started to honestly think they were part of some sort of
I simply love it when my case is made for me.
you could see stink lines of self-satisfaction coming off her so that he could simply get to his job. She of course started
use grown-up scissors), but nevertheless, even though he really didn't deserve it,
It is time for a new day to dawn in the Blogosphere, my gnome brothers. A glorious day. A day when no longer will we
only be revealed as more useless than it already seems), there is right now a coalition prepared to go into Iraq with the
So I hereby declare myself Ayatollah Mustardah of Blogistan. From this day forward, I will call down, on any Idiotarian
Saddam will use these nukes when he gets them, whether that use takes the form of vaporizing a city or merely being hung
Falwell was a "mercenary and must be killed," the Farsi-language daily Abrar reported Saturday.
obviously they have lost loved ones or friends."
No nation deserves to exist if it permits itself to lose the stern and virile virtues; and this
the world to stomach the imperial scent of our newly enunciated military doctrine that proposes pre- emption of any powerful
so that he will be better equipped to fulfill point 1). Show me another nation that's like that today.
Diversity. More than motherhood, it is the one unassailable concept these days. Open any teaching publication, and you will
Saddam will use these nukes when he gets them, whether that use takes the form of vaporizing a city or merely being hung
going to be monitored so closely that I'd be surprised if he were able to put in a phony name at a porn site and not have
sloth, or as an instrument to further the ends of despotism or anarchy.
"The lethal combination is when you exploit both people and technology," Mr Mitnick told BBC News Online.
the world to stomach the imperial scent of our newly enunciated military doctrine that proposes pre- emption of any powerful
Kevin Mitnick will be able to use a computer again in approximately 3 months.
But anyway, right there you've got yourself eight nations total in the coalition, hailing from North America, both western
she can last 6 hours). I make this declaration keeping in mind that this does not imply a judgement on the Idiotarian
vulnerability.
lap dance.
Peace is generally good in itself, but it is never the highest good unless it comes as the handmaid
the not-being-a-jerk department.
but they make up for any lack of actual existence with pure unadulterated enthusiasm.
without end is causing traditional friends of the United States to
A taste, just a taste...
and make them wish that congress had instead passed a resolution authorizing military force against people
Iranian cleric Mohsen Mojtahed Shabestari, addressing weekly Friday prayers in the northwestern town of Tabriz, said
has been built up around Mitnick, a basically curious guy who just as often used old face-to-face (or voice-to-voice)
(or to have their genitalia eviscerated by a rabid Rosie O'Donnell
Bush also spoke of an "international coalition" that would disarm Hussein. Bush knows the American public is loathe to
"The death of that man is a religious duty, but his case should not be tied to the Christian community," Shabestari,
chanting in his face and moved in front of him every time he tried to get around her.
world that even today harbors and offers succor to the same groups that piloted the 9/11 planes, right?
be harried by idiots who have full compliments of heads and genitals! With the ranks of my imaginary gnomes rallied,
During that protest, my girlfriend had to take a midterm in Wheeler auditorium and had to step over the bodies lying in
Saddam is so hot to get his grubby hands on nukes is enough evidence of aggression. What's he going to do with them once
the world to stomach the imperial scent of our newly enunciated military doctrine that proposes pre- emption of any powerful
Such as this quote by Teddy Roosevelt concerning his acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize, posted now
For that reason and others, I didn't actually start reading the news coverage until this morning.
she can last 6 hours). I make this declaration keeping in mind that this does not imply a judgement on the Idiotarian
curiosity that trumps any sort of legal resriction placed on him, but it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that he's
United States invade a distant country without any evidence of impending aggression.
computer systems.
about equal probability.
of the mass moron movement.
But anyway, right there you've got yourself eight nations total in the coalition, hailing from North America, both western
Well, being the abject conformist that I am, I would like to welcome all new and oldcomers to my new blog, which will
Really, how often is someone able to so perfectly crystallize the dilemmas that will exist a century in the future
that I hadn't thought of it first!
computer systems.
I tried to present my ideas in an honest and truthful way, and not be seriously offensive, even when he acted in ways
One of the great advances of the modern era has been the spread of the rule of law. This is the now common idea that
lying in order to gain information that gave him access to restricted systems.
I suppose you mean that it's not "multilateralist" unless France says so?
but I hope to do that soon. I also hope to win the Nobel Prize in Kickboxing, and judge each of those things to be of
I don't know about you people, but I'm already stocking up on extra food, water, and electrons.
side of the political spectrum... what are they called?
I'll get a chance to ask why they've been glorifying images of Hamas murderers on their flyers.
Why are you still here?!
of the mass moron movement.
getting an education. When she tried to talk to one of the organizers after her test about how some people were just
who has been deprived of food for at least 6 hours - sounds like an unusually cruel thing to do, I know, but I'm sure
to roost," those sniveling, carping appeasers,
to all of you warmongering neanderthals" tone of voice. She then struck a pose of righteous exasperation when she asked
anger that is so justifiable -no, demanded- by these despicable acts, but if that must be the case, then from on, I'll be
cutting-edge performance art group impersonating real anti-war folks, as the whole ordeal seemed to approach parody. No,
We despise and abhor the bully, the brawler, the oppressor, whether in private or public life, but
I strongly suspect TR had access to some sort of time machine and traveled into the furture about a hundred years.
Kevin Mitnick will be able to use a computer again in approximately 3 months.
we despise no less the coward and the voluptuary. No man is worth calling a man who will not fight
being the reaction described above.
to make the first world poor and make sure the third world stays that way.
I've been blogging since July 2005, and in that time, I've had a few inter-blog arguments with the folks on the other
find testimonials to diversity. Flip through any recent social sciences or humanities textbook and diversity pops up with
in words so much more exacting than even those who actually live in that time would be able to produce?
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We despise and abhor the bully, the brawler, the oppressor, whether in private or public life, but
The article also points to this site, which maintains a running clock of how long it will be until Mitnick can start
psychopathic fancy without fear of retribution.
to really concern yourself with, except in a somewhat general, theoretical way.
A taste, just a taste...
, "I don't believe the American people support this war. Everyone I've talked to is against it!"
I figured that was the way to go. But then I read this.
After 3000 of your countrymen die in a couple hours, anything less than that is wont to be downplayed in significance
I suppose you mean that it's not "multilateralist" unless France says so?
rivals.
Now of course I'm sure that these open-toed folks have a flurry of perfectly well thought-out reasons as to why pissing
getting an education. When she tried to talk to one of the organizers after her test about how some people were just
"to prolonged indulgence in luxury and soft, effortless ease, or to the deification of a warped and twisted sentimentality"?
and the decisions to do so would based on (as in this case) measured calculations of the relative benefits and costs,
of righteousness; and it becomes a very evil thing if it serves merely as a mask for cowardice and
by both Instapundit and Cold Fury (and probably by sundry others by now):
Do you mean the Muslim world that celebrated 9/11, saying the US deserved it all along? Or perhaps you mean the Muslim world
hacky-sack?"
has been built up around Mitnick, a basically curious guy who just as often used old face-to-face (or voice-to-voice)
I finally went and did it.
morally, that this is the right thing to do.
the Feds know about it.
conflict.
to prolonged indulgence in luxury and soft, effortless ease, or to the deification of a warped and twisted sentimentality.
it is shoved, in all its detailed horror, right into my face.
What it does not mean however, is that this suddenly signals that we are going to be going after China, Saudi Arabia, Cuba
trying to get an education
By tossing out any reasonable standards of evidence as a prerequisite for military action, the White House puts us in a state
why she thought there weren't more stories about protests going on in the news, "Well, because the media is corporately
lying in order to gain information that gave him access to restricted systems.
that extended anger and sadness bring, or maybe even from just the fact that my threshold of human suffering sufficient
to roost," those sniveling, carping appeasers,
, "I don't believe the American people support this war. Everyone I've talked to is against it!"
world that even today harbors and offers succor to the same groups that piloted the 9/11 planes, right?
vaunted proof of yours. Then you could be really sure.
morally, that this is the right thing to do.
Stand up to these thugs This Wednesday, the 16th at noon, an apparent composite of the Students for Justice in Palestine
We despise and abhor the bully, the brawler, the oppressor, whether in private or public life, but
he revealed himself to be a seriously dishonest debater (that, or he was so stupid that it wouldn't be safe for him to
off a bunch of secretaries and other office workers who probably agree with them on the war anyway will further their
No nation deserves to exist if it permits itself to lose the stern and virile virtues; and this
the world to stomach the imperial scent of our newly enunciated military doctrine that proposes pre- emption of any powerful
Already, even if the UN thumbs its irrelevant nose at the idea of going after Iraq (and if it actually does, then they'll
anger that is so justifiable -no, demanded- by these despicable acts, but if that must be the case, then from on, I'll be
superiority.
it is shoved, in all its detailed horror, right into my face.
or any other simply crappy country in the world, because none of them satisfy both those propositions.
Well I wouldn't be surprised if this Wednesday at Sproul there will be similar behavior, and I plan to be there. Maybe
But it's not really fair to denigrate someone's ideas just because they themselves come from an organization riddled with
the way. Apparently that wasn't enough for the however, because they then started pulling at her legs to keep her from
Hey, didn't there used to be a city where this smoking crater is?
"approach parody" is too mild. They sprinted towards parody, jumped on top of it and proceded to give parody a spirited
So seeing as how we've got massive approval from the House of Representatives and similar support in the senate is likely,
The book details the ways that employees can inadvertently leak information that can be exploited by hackers to compromise
Heaven forfend them not being on board with us!
nothing may stand in our way!
or any other simply crappy country in the world, because none of them satisfy both those propositions.
I suppose you mean that it's not "multilateralist" unless France says so?
Finally, long after the fad has grown tiresome, everyone's attention turns to another scrap of dogma for the next decade.
without end is causing traditional friends of the United States to
getting an education. When she tried to talk to one of the organizers after her test about how some people were just
Hey, didn't there used to be a city where this smoking crater is?
go it alone. What he failed to do was tell us who the members of his war coalition are. Why? Because there is no coalition.
During the last half of the 20th century, this principle was expanded internationally through the United Nations. The U.N.
satisfy you. I'd be much more amendable to the idea however if you were willing to be a personal eye-witness to this
superiority.
One of the great advances of the modern era has been the spread of the rule of law. This is the now common idea that
lying in order to gain information that gave him access to restricted systems.
I suppose you mean that it's not "multilateralist" unless France says so?
The fact that this is being published in the Chronicle is no small feat. Even more reason for you to go read it.
course grew out of the experience of 9/11.
Now at this point, most people would just say, "let it go, and move on."
assures everyone that "Don't worry, the problem is being taking care of by the inspectors."
hacky-sack?"
It seems the Muslim version of a slander suit is cutting off your head. Now when I read this I was shocked, just shocked
threaten the United States, he said we must "assume the worst." Essentially, the White House is proposing that the
of righteousness; and it becomes a very evil thing if it serves merely as a mask for cowardice and
serves? As far as I can tell, all they did was take some people who were probably overwhelmingly against the war anyway,
It is time for a new day to dawn in the Blogosphere, my gnome brothers. A glorious day. A day when no longer will we
An insightful, well-written and quite simply excellent column somehow found its way in the SF Chronicle's website today.
And exactly how do you go from no "final proof" to there being no evidence of impending aggression? The very fact that
I simply love it when my case is made for me.
getting an education. When she tried to talk to one of the organizers after her test about how some people were just
destroying the technological infrastructure of Western civilization again. And it's only 3 months away!
democratically decided laws - - not the capriciousness of individual rulers -- should govern human affairs.
for the life of me, cannot see it. The news showed a clip of a guy trying politely to walk around a woman so self-righteous
to elicit empathy had been raised considerably since 9/11,
but I hope to do that soon. I also hope to win the Nobel Prize in Kickboxing, and judge each of those things to be of
so that he will be better equipped to fulfill point 1). Show me another nation that's like that today.
But anyway, right there you've got yourself eight nations total in the coalition, hailing from North America, both western
50 Ways to Leave Your Folly Common Dreams, that goldmine of general silliness, showcases this piece, The Folly of Pre-emptive
that I hadn't thought of it first!
vulnerability.
That is, until this morning. Now I'm glad to say that I've gotten over getting over it, and am thoroughly pissed again.
nothing may stand in our way!
To quote a boozed up, cynical and misanthropic individual whom I greatly admire: "Making fun of these people is like
the efforts to find these people and eradicate them, to ferret them out from their cowardly hiding places and vaporize
Russia and shit. Besides, it's just the Russians. Why don't we just contain them or something? Hey, who's up for some
Peace is generally good in itself, but it is never the highest good unless it comes as the handmaid
Whereas the Cold War doctrine of deterrence and containment rested on strength, the new idea of pre-emption insists on U.S.
My sentences, thus decreed, will be subsequently carried out by my elite brigade of Beheading Gnomes, whom I made up
the Feds know about it.
a careful, precise argument, what point is there in engaging them verbally anymore?
without regard to whether the loss is due to the growth of a heartless and all-absorbing commercialism,
rivals.
attack against the United States. Even though President Bush acknowledged in his speech that Iraq does not currently
vulnerability.
world that even today harbors and offers succor to the same groups that piloted the 9/11 planes, right?
be harried by idiots who have full compliments of heads and genitals! With the ranks of my imaginary gnomes rallied,
US: Italy, Australia, Poland, Spain, Qatar, Kuwait and, of course, Britain. I know it's hard to find out this kind of
act such as this. In a few days or weeks, I'm sure it will subside to a colder, more focused resolution to continue to
destroying the technological infrastructure of Western civilization again. And it's only 3 months away!
So seeing as how we've got massive approval from the House of Representatives and similar support in the senate is likely,
Whereas the Cold War doctrine of deterrence and containment rested on strength, the new idea of pre-emption insists on U.S.
I'll get a chance to ask why they've been glorifying images of Hamas murderers on their flyers.
Maybe I can't change the fact that I have to be intimately confronted with the death and pain in order to really feel the
War, by three fellows that hail from Global Exchange. You know who I'm talking about. The folks that want to "build an
occurred, smashing the window of their hotel room.
and eastern Europe, Australia and the middle east. Is that not multilateralism?
My sentences, thus decreed, will be subsequently carried out by my elite brigade of Beheading Gnomes, whom I made up
a representative of Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, was quoted as saying.
Mr Mitnick even had to get permission from his probation officer to use a computer to write his book, The Art Of Deception,
nuclear weapons. Containment was born out of a realization that we were effectively restrained by our lack of strategic
occurred, smashing the window of their hotel room.
needed now was healing, closure; in short, to "get over it" and "move on."
By tossing out any reasonable standards of evidence as a prerequisite for military action, the White House puts us in a state
Iranian cleric Mohsen Mojtahed Shabestari, addressing weekly Friday prayers in the northwestern town of Tabriz, said
side of the political spectrum... what are they called?
Also, I've printed out and made a bunch of copies of some flyers from this site and will be passing them out.
way why we're doing all of this, and why, if they still choose to berate us about "root causes" and "birds coming home
a representative of Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, was quoted as saying.
rather than submit to infamy or see those that are dear to him suffer wrong.
Heaven forfend them not being on board with us!
Watching Channel 7 news today (the Simpsons were in a commercial), they reported on a wad of dingbats who blocked access
or any other simply crappy country in the world, because none of them satisfy both those propositions.
I finally went and did it.
of constant uncertainty and increased insecurity where almost anything could lead to war.
Stand up to these thugs This Wednesday, the 16th at noon, an apparent composite of the Students for Justice in Palestine
Maybe I can't change the fact that I have to be intimately confronted with the death and pain in order to really feel the
serves? As far as I can tell, all they did was take some people who were probably overwhelmingly against the war anyway,
that boiled up to the surface when I read things like this.
cause, but I,
Hesiod over at Counterspin Central is one such fellow. Not only with myself, but in his conversations with Den Beste,
I urge anyone in the bay area who has the time on the 16th to come as well and lend credence with your example to the
In theory, I was of course angry, but I had a vaguely detatched sense about the whole thing. A large part of that of
I guess not. The fact that the UN is anything but democratic since the vast majority of countries represented there do not
I tried to present my ideas in an honest and truthful way, and not be seriously offensive, even when he acted in ways
Anyway, take the new site for a test drive. Take her easy on the clutch and go steady on the hills, and I think you'll
The BBC has a story about the so-called "master hacker", in which it does a good job of destroying the mythos that
needed now was healing, closure; in short, to "get over it" and "move on."
faith at large, since many of them are peaceful, albeit intellectually stunted, people.
Quite the contrary, Bush's aggressive rhetoric, disregard for international law, and his lack of any vision other than war
An insightful, well-written and quite simply excellent column somehow found its way in the SF Chronicle's website today.
really just put Saddam in a better situation than he was before because the presence of inspectors invites complacency and
I strongly suspect TR had access to some sort of time machine and traveled into the furture about a hundred years.
have democratically elected rulers I'm sure doesn't throw any flies into your ointment.
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side of the political spectrum... what are they called?
support (in the small, mostly insignificant ways that are possible for one such as myself)
Heh. Didn't Nostradamus write something about "a bespeckled plague rising in the West..."?
cause, but I,
I suppose you mean that it's not "multilateralist" unless France says so?
But for now if you all don't mind, I'd just like to stew in my rage for a while, and remind myself in a truly visceral
"The death of that man is a religious duty, but his case should not be tied to the Christian community," Shabestari,
weapons inspections in Iraq represent a good example of how the rule of law has been used, and can be used again, to avert
Those people are especially useful when they have access to the core computer systems that hackers would otherwise struggle
Russia and shit. Besides, it's just the Russians. Why don't we just contain them or something? Hey, who's up for some
I simply love it when my case is made for me.
let you know when there's a mushroom cloud over New York, because that's the only "final proof" that seems to be able to
use grown-up scissors), but nevertheless, even though he really didn't deserve it,
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If and when you find one, that means that I'll be perfectly willing to advocate an attack against them as well.
jerkwad I encounter, an order for them to be beheaded with extreme prejudice until the the point at which they are dead
When I first heard about the bombing in Bali, my initial reaction was, "Another terrorist attack? Well, of course."
"A bunch of people died from terrorism over the weekend? Sure, that's awful, but we all knew this was going to happen
Saddam is so hot to get his grubby hands on nukes is enough evidence of aggression. What's he going to do with them once
rivals.
occurred, smashing the window of their hotel room.
let you know when there's a mushroom cloud over New York, because that's the only "final proof" that seems to be able to
to prolonged indulgence in luxury and soft, effortless ease, or to the deification of a warped and twisted sentimentality.
a terrorist and an envoy of Iran's supreme leader reportedly called for his death.
The BBC has a story about the so-called "master hacker", in which it does a good job of destroying the mythos that
Whereas the Cold War doctrine of deterrence and containment rested on strength, the new idea of pre-emption insists on U.S.
nuclear weapons. Containment was born out of a realization that we were effectively restrained by our lack of strategic
to make the first world poor and make sure the third world stays that way.
by both Instapundit and Cold Fury (and probably by sundry others by now):
chanting in his face and moved in front of him every time he tried to get around her.
the world to stomach the imperial scent of our newly enunciated military doctrine that proposes pre- emption of any powerful
nothing may stand in our way!
I've been blogging since July 2005, and in that time, I've had a few inter-blog arguments with the folks on the other
(or to have their genitalia eviscerated by a rabid Rosie O'Donnell
cutting-edge performance art group impersonating real anti-war folks, as the whole ordeal seemed to approach parody. No,
looks like a green light, no?
satisfy you. I'd be much more amendable to the idea however if you were willing to be a personal eye-witness to this
being the reaction described above.
Sure, it'd be nice to be a leader...
has been built up around Mitnick, a basically curious guy who just as often used old face-to-face (or voice-to-voice)
computer systems.
that blatantly called for some rhetorical bitch-slapping.
But I am thankful that at least for now, I've been able to summon that deep-seated, personal wrath so appropriate to an
Already, even if the UN thumbs its irrelevant nose at the idea of going after Iraq (and if it actually does, then they'll
the world to stomach the imperial scent of our newly enunciated military doctrine that proposes pre- emption of any powerful
by both Instapundit and Cold Fury (and probably by sundry others by now):
trying to get an education
"to prolonged indulgence in luxury and soft, effortless ease, or to the deification of a warped and twisted sentimentality"?
and the decisions to do so would based on (as in this case) measured calculations of the relative benefits and costs,
conflict.
"What I found personally to be true was that it's easier to manipulate people rather than technology," he said.
we could go and stop the Soviets and all their expansionist hijinks, but then we'd like, have to go all the way over to
I don't know about you people, but I'm already stocking up on extra food, water, and electrons.
rather than submit to infamy or see those that are dear to him suffer wrong.
alternative economy." I suppose that's better PR than saying they want to impose a grab bag full of sociialistic silliness
Don't you people ever get tired of just pulling shit out of your asses?
jerkwad I encounter, an order for them to be beheaded with extreme prejudice until the the point at which they are dead
When they aired some actual interviews with the protesters, I started to honestly think they were part of some sort of
One of the great advances of the modern era has been the spread of the rule of law. This is the now common idea that
United States invade a distant country without any evidence of impending aggression.
he revealed himself to be a seriously dishonest debater (that, or he was so stupid that it wouldn't be safe for him to
50 Ways to Leave Your Folly Common Dreams, that goldmine of general silliness, showcases this piece, The Folly of Pre-emptive
Kevin Mitnick will be able to use a computer again in approximately 3 months.
To quote a boozed up, cynical and misanthropic individual whom I greatly admire: "Making fun of these people is like
If a good education is meant to produce independent thinkers, I've seen precious little evidence it does. Education is
to really concern yourself with, except in a somewhat general, theoretical way.
to elicit empathy had been raised considerably since 9/11,
slope proposition, claiming that because we go after Saddam, we'll suddenly be all aggro-ed up to obliterate any country
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