Deb Saunders discusses a PC flap over Italian mob stereotypes and the Columbus Day parade in New York, since Italian-American groups (I hate every permutation of the “x-American” terminology, but if they wanna be silly and call themselves that, fine) refused to let Bloomberg’s guests, actors from the Sopranos, walk with him, thinking it cast a negative light on Italians, and encourage racism, or something…

Now, the mother’s half of my family is 100% stupid wop dago (see, I can say that, being a 50% dirty guinea bastard). In fact, both my grandparents on that side were born and spent their childhoods in Sicily (ask any native Italian and they’ll tell you that makes me half-Sicilian, not half-Italian), and my grandfather’s family was personally touched more than once by mob violence. And on the whole ethnic side of things, it basically goes without saying that I’ve never run into any kind of anti-Italian prejudice in my life dog knot sex. Indeed, the idea sounds so ridiculous that if someone actually hurled some sort of sincerely virulent epithet at me, I can only imagine being amused, feeling like I had stepped into some sort time machine and ended up in 1930 or so. In fact, if I ever do run into any kind of racial prejudice in my life, it will probably be because I was thought to be Arabic or Jewish, a mistake which has happened before (not that I expect any prejudice ever to happen to me because of this, what with the hugely manufactured “wave” of anti-Arab feelings post 9/11, where a few isolated idiots doing a few isolated idiotic things were portrayed as being indicative of the nation).

So I have something of a personal perspective on this. I’m sure most of you will say, “So what? That doesn’t make your opinion on this any more valuable or correct!”

Quite right, but I just had to work in some racial slurs into this post somehow, and a discussion of my greaseball heritage seemed the most opportune way.

So let me say this, coming from an Italian family, I am often quite annoyed both by Italians’ often wholesale denial of any kind of mob connection with their ethnicity, and also the strange urge in many corners of Italian life to celebrate this aspect of their ethnic background, apparently because it is a thing unique, exotic, and one with which popular American culture seems to be inextricably fascinated.

Regarding the former, I recognize that this isn’t nearly as much of a problem, since society in general has found so many other pressing needs to attend to in the last 10 years or so (not to mention the fact that the Italian mob is no longer the single big player in terms of ethnic organized crime), but I can still rememeber when Mario Cuomo got all huffy about characterizing the mob as an “Italian thing,” claiming that was racist and libelous sex animal girl.

William F. Buckley responded at the time with what I thought was a completely sensible question: if Cuomo’s ethnic brothers aren’t involved in organized crime, then what’s the deal with all those men with Italian sounding names going to the electric chair? I believe the same point then was made in relation to Italians and the mob as is made today regarding Arabs and terrorism: namely, that Italians are generally not mobsters, but mobsters are generally Italians, so if you wished to target mob activity, it was inevitable that you were going to be focusing mostly on guys with names like Diego and Antonio and Giovanni.

So there. In that sense, the flap over the Soprano actors seems sort of silly, don’t it?

However.

What is perhaps more curious is the tendency for Italians in America to embrace and celebrate the mob mystique. It isn’t something that’s serious or really thought-out beastiality dogs fucking women. It’s not as if they sit around thinking, “My ancestors murdered and stole and corrupted large parts of American urban society for years, and mostly kept from getting caught. Isn’t that cool?” I’m pretty certain that the cognitive version that inhabits most people’s conception of Italian mobsters is a highly sanitized, romantic one, where the mobsters are merely exoticly romantic and ethnic rogues, with their own set of customs and sense of honor. I repeatedly recoil at this denial of the simple fact that these people were brutal and ruthless killers, who killed grusomely and occasionally en masse for personal profit.

Perhaps it’s part of what Perry De Haviland described in reference to Slovakia’s current ails:

So what is Slovakia really like? A country of which we know little and care even less, it hasn’t yet found any symbolic associations that gets small, and big, nations through the day - Switzerland has cheese and cuckoo clocks, Scotland has whisky and tartan, Czech Republic has beer and Prague, Russia has vodka and chaos etc.

And the Italian version: pasta and crime (hell, they even call the mob cosa nostra, “our thing”).

The Sopranos is fabulously popular among Italians, possibly more so than among any other demographic, in the same way that the Godfather was and is, and I can see how Italian-American PR groups (really, what else are they?) chafe at this, though I’m a little surprised that they don’t simply go along with the trend man dog sex. For this, at least, they should be commended.

So was it foolish for the parade sponsors to not allow the Soprano actors to march? A little.

One point to be made is that these people are simply prominent Italian celebrities, regardless of the parts they play. Perhaps if Bloomberg had chosen a couple of non-Italians who were on the show, there would have been more justification for the sponsors’ reaction, but in either case it’s something of a minor point.

What really concerns me is the St. Patrick’s day parade and all those dirty, barbarous Micks. I just hate them so much!

again soon, didn't we?"
Well that's not really true. People on a different side of the debate than I are not necessarily jerks, just wrong.
over the heads of the world's nations as threat so that he can act willy-nilly in whatever new adventure captures his
to really concern yourself with, except in a somewhat general, theoretical way.
And at most, UN weapons inspectors have delayed conflict by a few years, not averted it. In actualyity, I think they have
world that even today harbors and offers succor to the same groups that piloted the 9/11 planes, right?
Sorry folks, but slippery slope arguments don't hold water by themselves. We're going after Saddam because he 1) has shown
a careful, precise argument, what point is there in engaging them verbally anymore?
serves? As far as I can tell, all they did was take some people who were probably overwhelmingly against the war anyway,
alternative economy." I suppose that's better PR than saying they want to impose a grab bag full of sociialistic silliness
of fist.
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fact that these people are thugs, bullies and liars.
agree that [insert additional badly-forced car metaphor here]!
threaten the United States, he said we must "assume the worst." Essentially, the White House is proposing that the
The Muslim world -- whose support is vital to any real effort to end the causes of terrorism -- is adamantly opposed.
Really, how often is someone able to so perfectly crystallize the dilemmas that will exist a century in the future
looks like a green light, no?
Mr Mitnick even had to get permission from his probation officer to use a computer to write his book, The Art Of Deception,
over the heads of the world's nations as threat so that he can act willy-nilly in whatever new adventure captures his
owned," she pontificated, in that snotty "52% of my clothes are made of hemp which therefore makes me morally superior
However, several of the exchanges I have had have definately been with those you might describe as "challeneged" in
something-really-awfuls, BlogSpot.
You mean everyone in America aren't like San Franciscans?
cause, but I,
vaunted proof of yours. Then you could be really sure.
I strongly suspect TR had access to some sort of time machine and traveled into the furture about a hundred years.
lap dance.
It seems the Muslim version of a slander suit is cutting off your head. Now when I read this I was shocked, just shocked
vaunted proof of yours. Then you could be really sure.
The article also points to this site, which maintains a running clock of how long it will be until Mitnick can start
Iranian cleric Mohsen Mojtahed Shabestari, addressing weekly Friday prayers in the northwestern town of Tabriz, said
of righteousness; and it becomes a very evil thing if it serves merely as a mask for cowardice and
he revealed himself to be a seriously dishonest debater (that, or he was so stupid that it wouldn't be safe for him to
the world to stomach the imperial scent of our newly enunciated military doctrine that proposes pre- emption of any powerful
Such as this quote by Teddy Roosevelt concerning his acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize, posted now
sloth, or as an instrument to further the ends of despotism or anarchy.
without regard to whether the loss is due to the growth of a heartless and all-absorbing commercialism,
destroying the technological infrastructure of Western civilization again. And it's only 3 months away!
a representative of Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, was quoted as saying.
obviously they have lost loved ones or friends."
Hey, didn't there used to be a city where this smoking crater is?
But for now if you all don't mind, I'd just like to stew in my rage for a while, and remind myself in a truly visceral
being the reaction described above.
act such as this. In a few days or weeks, I'm sure it will subside to a colder, more focused resolution to continue to
I have to admit I'm pretty curious just to see what he's going to do. The guy has shown himself to have an overpowering
Don't worry, I'll sit here with my rifle ready to take out any airborne porcines, should they come flying by.
be harried by idiots who have full compliments of heads and genitals! With the ranks of my imaginary gnomes rallied,
Eventually he got a little ticked off and said roughly, "Get away from me!" I was hungrily anticipating the energetic dissenter
on the civilized world. And when I resort again to that frame of mind, it will be because I realize, intellectually and
I simply love it when my case is made for me.
Whereas the Cold War doctrine of deterrence and containment rested on strength, the new idea of pre-emption insists on U.S.
that continues to characterize the US as the Great Satan and preach jihad against all things Western? Oh I know, the Muslim
slope proposition, claiming that because we go after Saddam, we'll suddenly be all aggro-ed up to obliterate any country
Wheeler Hall last spring.
So I hereby declare myself Ayatollah Mustardah of Blogistan. From this day forward, I will call down, on any Idiotarian
"to prolonged indulgence in luxury and soft, effortless ease, or to the deification of a warped and twisted sentimentality"?
that boiled up to the surface when I read things like this.
Mr Mitnick even had to get permission from his probation officer to use a computer to write his book, The Art Of Deception,
Maybe I can't change the fact that I have to be intimately confronted with the death and pain in order to really feel the
So welcome. If this is the first and/or only post you can see, it means I haven't imported my archives from Blogspot yet,
a representative of Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, was quoted as saying.
chanting in his face and moved in front of him every time he tried to get around her.
to elicit empathy had been raised considerably since 9/11,
that extended anger and sadness bring, or maybe even from just the fact that my threshold of human suffering sufficient
without end is causing traditional friends of the United States to
you could see stink lines of self-satisfaction coming off her so that he could simply get to his job. She of course started
the teacher trying to impress both of them.
I have to admit I'm pretty curious just to see what he's going to do. The guy has shown himself to have an overpowering
off a bunch of secretaries and other office workers who probably agree with them on the war anyway will further their
assures everyone that "Don't worry, the problem is being taking care of by the inspectors."
rivals.
The BBC has a story about the so-called "master hacker", in which it does a good job of destroying the mythos that
needed now was healing, closure; in short, to "get over it" and "move on."
I strongly suspect TR had access to some sort of time machine and traveled into the furture about a hundred years.
Watching Channel 7 news today (the Simpsons were in a commercial), they reported on a wad of dingbats who blocked access
making a point of reading in depth about any such future atrocity to ensure that I don't allow myself to be instantly "over it."
being the reaction described above.
he is willing to act aggressively and recklessly and cannot be reasonably deterred and 2) is working to get and use nukes
weapons inspections in Iraq represent a good example of how the rule of law has been used, and can be used again, to avert
to elicit empathy had been raised considerably since 9/11,
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to really concern yourself with, except in a somewhat general, theoretical way.
jerkwad I encounter, an order for them to be beheaded with extreme prejudice until the the point at which they are dead
and make them wish that congress had instead passed a resolution authorizing military force against people
That is, until this morning. Now I'm glad to say that I've gotten over getting over it, and am thoroughly pissed again.
The BBC has a story about the so-called "master hacker", in which it does a good job of destroying the mythos that
So I hereby declare myself Ayatollah Mustardah of Blogistan. From this day forward, I will call down, on any Idiotarian
You try to make it seem as if the Joint Chiefs were lying around on a Sunday afternoon and said to themselves, "Yeah sure,
sloth, or as an instrument to further the ends of despotism or anarchy.
That is, until this morning. Now I'm glad to say that I've gotten over getting over it, and am thoroughly pissed again.
without end is causing traditional friends of the United States to
Maybe I can't change the fact that I have to be intimately confronted with the death and pain in order to really feel the
military action to counter the Soviet threat was not possible, because of their equal capacity to destroy us through
go it alone. What he failed to do was tell us who the members of his war coalition are. Why? Because there is no coalition.
During the last half of the 20th century, this principle was expanded internationally through the United Nations. The U.N.
computer systems.
the world to stomach the imperial scent of our newly enunciated military doctrine that proposes pre- emption of any powerful
Yes, well I suppose you're suggesting that we would be well-served to wait for this "final proof," then? Very well. I'll
the efforts to find these people and eradicate them, to ferret them out from their cowardly hiding places and vaporize
Meanwhile, the fact that we are able to use pre-emptive action when deemed necessary is a fact of our strength, not weakness
Peace is generally good in itself, but it is never the highest good unless it comes as the handmaid
the not-being-a-jerk department.
50 Ways to Leave Your Folly Common Dreams, that goldmine of general silliness, showcases this piece, The Folly of Pre-emptive
he is willing to act aggressively and recklessly and cannot be reasonably deterred and 2) is working to get and use nukes
getting an education. When she tried to talk to one of the organizers after her test about how some people were just
the efforts to find these people and eradicate them, to ferret them out from their cowardly hiding places and vaporize
cutting-edge performance art group impersonating real anti-war folks, as the whole ordeal seemed to approach parody. No,
"Standing in the foyer of the Bounty Hotel, people were just walking in, blood dripping off them, burns to their face, skin
Eventually he got a little ticked off and said roughly, "Get away from me!" I was hungrily anticipating the energetic dissenter
I was already in a state of "moving on" and being "over it" before I even heard about the Bali attacks, with the result
But it's not really fair to denigrate someone's ideas just because they themselves come from an organization riddled with
I've been blogging since July 2005, and in that time, I've had a few inter-blog arguments with the folks on the other
predictable frequency. Follow a politician to a school photo-op,
psychopathic fancy without fear of retribution.
It seems the Muslim version of a slander suit is cutting off your head. Now when I read this I was shocked, just shocked
Yes, well I suppose you're suggesting that we would be well-served to wait for this "final proof," then? Very well. I'll
Those people are especially useful when they have access to the core computer systems that hackers would otherwise struggle
the world to stomach the imperial scent of our newly enunciated military doctrine that proposes pre- emption of any powerful
What it does not mean however, is that this suddenly signals that we are going to be going after China, Saudi Arabia, Cuba
without regard to whether the loss is due to the growth of a heartless and all-absorbing commercialism,
side of the political spectrum... what are they called?
You try to make it seem as if the Joint Chiefs were lying around on a Sunday afternoon and said to themselves, "Yeah sure,
After 3000 of your countrymen die in a couple hours, anything less than that is wont to be downplayed in significance
chanting in his face and moved in front of him every time he tried to get around her.
not just "fear," as if we're going to indiscriminantly nuke the floor under our beds because monsters might be hiding there.
we despise no less the coward and the voluptuary. No man is worth calling a man who will not fight
being the reaction described above.
You mean everyone in America aren't like San Franciscans?
of fist.
Hesiod over at Counterspin Central is one such fellow. Not only with myself, but in his conversations with Den Beste,
being the reaction described above.
and the decisions to do so would based on (as in this case) measured calculations of the relative benefits and costs,
United States invade a distant country without any evidence of impending aggression.
By tossing out any reasonable standards of evidence as a prerequisite for military action, the White House puts us in a state
According to the president, "we cannot wait for the final proof" that Saddam Hussein's government is planning an imminent
trying to get an education
the teacher trying to impress both of them.
about equal probability.
So seeing as how we've got massive approval from the House of Representatives and similar support in the senate is likely,
sloth, or as an instrument to further the ends of despotism or anarchy.
use grown-up scissors), but nevertheless, even though he really didn't deserve it,
rather than submit to infamy or see those that are dear to him suffer wrong.
to make the first world poor and make sure the third world stays that way.
the All Men Are Rapists self defense workshop? Surely that must be a representative sample of the country!
Saddam is so hot to get his grubby hands on nukes is enough evidence of aggression. What's he going to do with them once
about equal probability.
off a bunch of secretaries and other office workers who probably agree with them on the war anyway will further their
The experience made me think of the instructions from all corners of the media after 9/11 that what we, as Americans,
she can last 6 hours). I make this declaration keeping in mind that this does not imply a judgement on the Idiotarian
"The death of that man is a religious duty, but his case should not be tied to the Christian community," Shabestari,
off a bunch of secretaries and other office workers who probably agree with them on the war anyway will further their
You must be triple jointed to be able to twist words like that.
about equal probability.
Kevin Mitnick will be able to use a computer again in approximately 3 months.
In fact, the idea of pre- emptive attack depends on fear. It presupposes insecurity and assumes we will always be threatened.
and you'll get diversity in the speech by the politician, in the one by the principal who welcomes him and in the one by
go it alone. What he failed to do was tell us who the members of his war coalition are. Why? Because there is no coalition.
University or Diversity
But I am thankful that at least for now, I've been able to summon that deep-seated, personal wrath so appropriate to an
That is, until this morning. Now I'm glad to say that I've gotten over getting over it, and am thoroughly pissed again.
be harried by idiots who have full compliments of heads and genitals! With the ranks of my imaginary gnomes rallied,
information with your heads crammed so far up your asses, so I'll give you a pass.
who has been deprived of food for at least 6 hours - sounds like an unusually cruel thing to do, I know, but I'm sure
obviously they have lost loved ones or friends."
Heaven forfend them not being on board with us!
care. Just don't let me hear anything about how this bombing that specifically targeted Australian civilians was somehow
Don't worry, I'll sit here with my rifle ready to take out any airborne porcines, should they come flying by.
news editors of Cannel 7 to allow, as the segment ended right there.
It is time for a new day to dawn in the Blogosphere, my gnome brothers. A glorious day. A day when no longer will we
and the UC Divestment folks will be holding a rally for what looks like the primary purpose of protesting the fact that
And exactly how do you go from no "final proof" to there being no evidence of impending aggression? The very fact that
So welcome. If this is the first and/or only post you can see, it means I haven't imported my archives from Blogspot yet,
so that he will be better equipped to fulfill point 1). Show me another nation that's like that today.
To quote a boozed up, cynical and misanthropic individual whom I greatly admire: "Making fun of these people is like
"to prolonged indulgence in luxury and soft, effortless ease, or to the deification of a warped and twisted sentimentality"?
I wish that I could just be told "Hundreds of people died in a terrorist bombing today," and instantly feel the kind of rage
cause, but I,
The book details the ways that employees can inadvertently leak information that can be exploited by hackers to compromise
So welcome. If this is the first and/or only post you can see, it means I haven't imported my archives from Blogspot yet,
course grew out of the experience of 9/11.
Don't worry, I'll sit here with my rifle ready to take out any airborne porcines, should they come flying by.
without regard to whether the loss is due to the growth of a heartless and all-absorbing commercialism,
Replace "powerful" with "crazy and armed with nukes" and you'd be right. Otherwise, your statement is nonsense.
At the very least, don't let me hear any of these things when you're standing in my presence, unless you want a faceful
jerkwad I encounter, an order for them to be beheaded with extreme prejudice until the the point at which they are dead
Russia and shit. Besides, it's just the Russians. Why don't we just contain them or something? Hey, who's up for some
he is willing to act aggressively and recklessly and cannot be reasonably deterred and 2) is working to get and use nukes
But anyway, right there you've got yourself eight nations total in the coalition, hailing from North America, both western
them into a thin paste of protein on a cave wall, to wipe out every last vestige of the disgusting stain they have left
the Feds know about it.
Yes, well I suppose you're suggesting that we would be well-served to wait for this "final proof," then? Very well. I'll
the not-being-a-jerk department.
War, by three fellows that hail from Global Exchange. You know who I'm talking about. The folks that want to "build an
of the mass moron movement.
getting an education. When she tried to talk to one of the organizers after her test about how some people were just
to prolonged indulgence in luxury and soft, effortless ease, or to the deification of a warped and twisted sentimentality.
hacky-sack?"
by both Instapundit and Cold Fury (and probably by sundry others by now):
However, several of the exchanges I have had have definately been with those you might describe as "challeneged" in
Finally, long after the fad has grown tiresome, everyone's attention turns to another scrap of dogma for the next decade.
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let you know when there's a mushroom cloud over New York, because that's the only "final proof" that seems to be able to
I urge anyone in the bay area who has the time on the 16th to come as well and lend credence with your example to the
I guess not. The fact that the UN is anything but democratic since the vast majority of countries represented there do not
Bush also spoke of an "international coalition" that would disarm Hussein. Bush knows the American public is loathe to
I'm going to be checking the weather channel for reports of snowflakes in Hell, but meanwhile you should go read it now.
Containment and deterrence were responses to US weakness, you silly-headed dunderpate. It was obvious that using direct
Why are you still here?!
so that he will be better equipped to fulfill point 1). Show me another nation that's like that today.
getting an education. When she tried to talk to one of the organizers after her test about how some people were just
support (in the small, mostly insignificant ways that are possible for one such as myself)
Stand up to these thugs This Wednesday, the 16th at noon, an apparent composite of the Students for Justice in Palestine
a careful, precise argument, what point is there in engaging them verbally anymore?
"What I found personally to be true was that it's easier to manipulate people rather than technology," he said.
we could go and stop the Soviets and all their expansionist hijinks, but then we'd like, have to go all the way over to
Now of course I'm sure that these open-toed folks have a flurry of perfectly well thought-out reasons as to why pissing
In fact, the idea of pre- emptive attack depends on fear. It presupposes insecurity and assumes we will always be threatened.
world that even today harbors and offers succor to the same groups that piloted the 9/11 planes, right?
alternative economy." I suppose that's better PR than saying they want to impose a grab bag full of sociialistic silliness
Now of course I'm sure that these open-toed folks have a flurry of perfectly well thought-out reasons as to why pissing
Well that's not really true. People on a different side of the debate than I are not necessarily jerks, just wrong.
I was already in a state of "moving on" and being "over it" before I even heard about the Bali attacks, with the result
Anyway, take the new site for a test drive. Take her easy on the clutch and go steady on the hills, and I think you'll
At the very least, don't let me hear any of these things when you're standing in my presence, unless you want a faceful
Well that's not really true. People on a different side of the debate than I are not necessarily jerks, just wrong.
being the reaction described above.
I wish that I could just be told "Hundreds of people died in a terrorist bombing today," and instantly feel the kind of rage
I simply love it when my case is made for me.
we despise no less the coward and the voluptuary. No man is worth calling a man who will not fight
serves? As far as I can tell, all they did was take some people who were probably overwhelmingly against the war anyway,
be harried by idiots who have full compliments of heads and genitals! With the ranks of my imaginary gnomes rallied,
I've been blogging since July 2005, and in that time, I've had a few inter-blog arguments with the folks on the other
I suppose you mean that it's not "multilateralist" unless France says so?
but I hope to do that soon. I also hope to win the Nobel Prize in Kickboxing, and judge each of those things to be of
he is willing to act aggressively and recklessly and cannot be reasonably deterred and 2) is working to get and use nukes
For that reason and others, I didn't actually start reading the news coverage until this morning.
and you'll get diversity in the speech by the politician, in the one by the principal who welcomes him and in the one by
Bush also spoke of an "international coalition" that would disarm Hussein. Bush knows the American public is loathe to
So seeing as how we've got massive approval from the House of Representatives and similar support in the senate is likely,
I guess not. The fact that the UN is anything but democratic since the vast majority of countries represented there do not
You must be triple jointed to be able to twist words like that.
to roost," those sniveling, carping appeasers,
that I hadn't thought of it first!
have democratically elected rulers I'm sure doesn't throw any flies into your ointment.
Many in the global community also distrust the Bush administration's expanding war aims. It is not easy for our friends around
information with your heads crammed so far up your asses, so I'll give you a pass.
You try to make it seem as if the Joint Chiefs were lying around on a Sunday afternoon and said to themselves, "Yeah sure,
University or Diversity
Eventually he got a little ticked off and said roughly, "Get away from me!" I was hungrily anticipating the energetic dissenter
50 Ways to Leave Your Folly Common Dreams, that goldmine of general silliness, showcases this piece, The Folly of Pre-emptive
a representative of Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, was quoted as saying.
he revealed himself to be a seriously dishonest debater (that, or he was so stupid that it wouldn't be safe for him to
that boiled up to the surface when I read things like this.
side of the political spectrum... what are they called?
The Muslim world -- whose support is vital to any real effort to end the causes of terrorism -- is adamantly opposed.
about equal probability.
economic stupidity, especially when their ideas would do such a better job of it by themselves. Case in point:
Well that's not really true. People on a different side of the debate than I are not necessarily jerks, just wrong.
I'll get a chance to ask why they've been glorifying images of Hamas murderers on their flyers.
Why are you still here?!
which is all about the biggest threat to the security of all companies: their own employees.
"I said it's being taken care of, dammit. Mind your own business."
Falwell was a "mercenary and must be killed," the Farsi-language daily Abrar reported Saturday.
And exactly how do you go from no "final proof" to there being no evidence of impending aggression? The very fact that
he is willing to act aggressively and recklessly and cannot be reasonably deterred and 2) is working to get and use nukes
conflict.
But I am thankful that at least for now, I've been able to summon that deep-seated, personal wrath so appropriate to an
I have to admit I'm pretty curious just to see what he's going to do. The guy has shown himself to have an overpowering
going to be monitored so closely that I'd be surprised if he were able to put in a phony name at a porn site and not have
The Muslim world -- whose support is vital to any real effort to end the causes of terrorism -- is adamantly opposed.
morally, that this is the right thing to do.
the Feds know about it.
the All Men Are Rapists self defense workshop? Surely that must be a representative sample of the country!
really just put Saddam in a better situation than he was before because the presence of inspectors invites complacency and
Heh. Didn't Nostradamus write something about "a bespeckled plague rising in the West..."?
So seeing as how we've got massive approval from the House of Representatives and similar support in the senate is likely,
However, several of the exchanges I have had have definately been with those you might describe as "challeneged" in
world that even today harbors and offers succor to the same groups that piloted the 9/11 planes, right?
about equal probability.
Such as this quote by Teddy Roosevelt concerning his acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize, posted now
the not-being-a-jerk department.
be replacing the old site that was hosted on that evil of evils, that bane of banes, that something-really-awful of
Sorry folks, but slippery slope arguments don't hold water by themselves. We're going after Saddam because he 1) has shown
However, several of the exchanges I have had have definately been with those you might describe as "challeneged" in
of fist.
And exactly how do you go from no "final proof" to there being no evidence of impending aggression? The very fact that
Anyway, take the new site for a test drive. Take her easy on the clutch and go steady on the hills, and I think you'll
to all of you warmongering neanderthals" tone of voice. She then struck a pose of righteous exasperation when she asked
Hesiod over at Counterspin Central is one such fellow. Not only with myself, but in his conversations with Den Beste,
Such as this quote by Teddy Roosevelt concerning his acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize, posted now
making a point of reading in depth about any such future atrocity to ensure that I don't allow myself to be instantly "over it."
we could go and stop the Soviets and all their expansionist hijinks, but then we'd like, have to go all the way over to
to the San Francisco federal building to protest the passage of Bush's resolution for action against Iraq.
But anyway, right there you've got yourself eight nations total in the coalition, hailing from North America, both western
Hey, didn't there used to be a city where this smoking crater is?
Russia and shit. Besides, it's just the Russians. Why don't we just contain them or something? Hey, who's up for some
attack against the United States. Even though President Bush acknowledged in his speech that Iraq does not currently
superiority.
care. Just don't let me hear anything about how this bombing that specifically targeted Australian civilians was somehow
anger that is so justifiable -no, demanded- by these despicable acts, but if that must be the case, then from on, I'll be
Heaven forfend them not being on board with us!
both at home and abroad, can go heartily fuck themselves, or jump off a cliff, or shoot themselves in the head. I don't
I mean come on, when you're arguing with someone who's just going to call you a Nazi when you spend 2,000 words making
Hesiod over at Counterspin Central is one such fellow. Not only with myself, but in his conversations with Den Beste,
fact that these people are thugs, bullies and liars.
of the mass moron movement.
But anyway, right there you've got yourself eight nations total in the coalition, hailing from North America, both western
Hey, didn't there used to be a city where this smoking crater is?
in words so much more exacting than even those who actually live in that time would be able to produce?
coming off them. It was really a terrible sight," she said. "You could just hear people crying up in the Bounty foyer -
The Muslim world -- whose support is vital to any real effort to end the causes of terrorism -- is adamantly opposed.
The fact that this is being published in the Chronicle is no small feat. Even more reason for you to go read it.
the real fault of that government or its citizens, or the West in general, or capitalism, or any other ridiculous boogeyman
hunting dairy cows with a high-powered rifle and scope."
the teacher trying to impress both of them.
to roost," those sniveling, carping appeasers,
Don't you people ever get tired of just pulling shit out of your asses?
But anyway, right there you've got yourself eight nations total in the coalition, hailing from North America, both western
Also, I've printed out and made a bunch of copies of some flyers from this site and will be passing them out.
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