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Pissed off Aussies
This from Tim Blair:
READER GEORGE S., from Seattle, writes:
You know something? I believe these Islamofascist bastards just permanently welded together the iron balls of the two ballsiest peoples on the planet.
Too fucking right. I remember that the third thing I thought when I learned about the Bali attacks, after “Those poor people,” and “Those Islamist fucks!” was “Well, Al Qeada just lost any chance of ever gaining a foothold anywhere within a thousand miles of Australia.”
I’m anxious to find out what how the Aussies interpret “with extreme prejudice.”
computer systems.And exactly how do you go from no "final proof" to there being no evidence of impending aggression? The very fact that
Replace "powerful" with "crazy and armed with nukes" and you'd be right. Otherwise, your statement is nonsense.
anger that is so justifiable -no, demanded- by these despicable acts, but if that must be the case, then from on, I'll be
be replacing the old site that was hosted on that evil of evils, that bane of banes, that something-really-awful of
slope proposition, claiming that because we go after Saddam, we'll suddenly be all aggro-ed up to obliterate any country
support (in the small, mostly insignificant ways that are possible for one such as myself)
information with your heads crammed so far up your asses, so I'll give you a pass.
Hey, didn't there used to be a city where this smoking crater is?
I have to admit I'm pretty curious just to see what he's going to do. The guy has shown himself to have an overpowering
occurred, smashing the window of their hotel room.
vaunted proof of yours. Then you could be really sure.
and make them wish that congress had instead passed a resolution authorizing military force against people
Meanwhile, the fact that we are able to use pre-emptive action when deemed necessary is a fact of our strength, not weakness
Peace is generally good in itself, but it is never the highest good unless it comes as the handmaid
"The lethal combination is when you exploit both people and technology," Mr Mitnick told BBC News Online.
Meanwhile, the fact that we are able to use pre-emptive action when deemed necessary is a fact of our strength, not weakness
Yes, well I suppose you're suggesting that we would be well-served to wait for this "final proof," then? Very well. I'll
a representative of Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, was quoted as saying.
"What I found personally to be true was that it's easier to manipulate people rather than technology," he said.
about equal probability.
I don't know about you people, but I'm already stocking up on extra food, water, and electrons.
trying to get an education
faith at large, since many of them are peaceful, albeit intellectually stunted, people.
way why we're doing all of this, and why, if they still choose to berate us about "root causes" and "birds coming home
, "I don't believe the American people support this war. Everyone I've talked to is against it!"
jerkwad I encounter, an order for them to be beheaded with extreme prejudice until the the point at which they are dead
on the civilized world. And when I resort again to that frame of mind, it will be because I realize, intellectually and
course grew out of the experience of 9/11.
I mean come on, when you're arguing with someone who's just going to call you a Nazi when you spend 2,000 words making
find testimonials to diversity. Flip through any recent social sciences or humanities textbook and diversity pops up with
on the civilized world. And when I resort again to that frame of mind, it will be because I realize, intellectually and
join the majority of the world's nations in distancing themselves from Washington in a fashion not seen since the Vietnam War.
To quote a boozed up, cynical and misanthropic individual whom I greatly admire: "Making fun of these people is like
I finally went and did it.
So welcome. If this is the first and/or only post you can see, it means I haven't imported my archives from Blogspot yet,
both at home and abroad, can go heartily fuck themselves, or jump off a cliff, or shoot themselves in the head. I don't
US: Italy, Australia, Poland, Spain, Qatar, Kuwait and, of course, Britain. I know it's hard to find out this kind of
I'll get a chance to ask why they've been glorifying images of Hamas murderers on their flyers.
The fact that this is being published in the Chronicle is no small feat. Even more reason for you to go read it.
so that he will be better equipped to fulfill point 1). Show me another nation that's like that today.
But anyway, right there you've got yourself eight nations total in the coalition, hailing from North America, both western
that continues to characterize the US as the Great Satan and preach jihad against all things Western? Oh I know, the Muslim
alternative economy." I suppose that's better PR than saying they want to impose a grab bag full of sociialistic silliness
Now of course I'm sure that these open-toed folks have a flurry of perfectly well thought-out reasons as to why pissing
of constant uncertainty and increased insecurity where almost anything could lead to war.
looks like a green light, no?
You must be triple jointed to be able to twist words like that.
You try to make it seem as if the Joint Chiefs were lying around on a Sunday afternoon and said to themselves, "Yeah sure,
democratically decided laws - - not the capriciousness of individual rulers -- should govern human affairs.
Peace is generally good in itself, but it is never the highest good unless it comes as the handmaid
Containment and deterrence were responses to US weakness, you silly-headed dunderpate. It was obvious that using direct
of a lack of imagination or basic humanity; the fact that it's difficult for me to feel deeply for people suffering unless
...but there's no shame in being a follower when those you're following make such damn good points.
Mr Mitnick even had to get permission from his probation officer to use a computer to write his book, The Art Of Deception,
he revealed himself to be a seriously dishonest debater (that, or he was so stupid that it wouldn't be safe for him to
of a lack of imagination or basic humanity; the fact that it's difficult for me to feel deeply for people suffering unless
Such as this quote by Teddy Roosevelt concerning his acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize, posted now
we despise no less the coward and the voluptuary. No man is worth calling a man who will not fight
nuclear weapons. Containment was born out of a realization that we were effectively restrained by our lack of strategic
rivals.
Peace is generally good in itself, but it is never the highest good unless it comes as the handmaid
to get a good smack upside the head (or as I call it, a "hippie hello"), but that was apparently too much for the niggardly
nuclear weapons. Containment was born out of a realization that we were effectively restrained by our lack of strategic
I wish that I could just be told "Hundreds of people died in a terrorist bombing today," and instantly feel the kind of rage
threaten the United States, he said we must "assume the worst." Essentially, the White House is proposing that the
to get a good smack upside the head (or as I call it, a "hippie hello"), but that was apparently too much for the niggardly
I figured that was the way to go. But then I read this.
Meanwhile, the fact that we are able to use pre-emptive action when deemed necessary is a fact of our strength, not weakness
weapons inspections in Iraq represent a good example of how the rule of law has been used, and can be used again, to avert
And exactly how do you go from no "final proof" to there being no evidence of impending aggression? The very fact that
Either that, or I now have to admit the existence of clairvoyance.
In theory, I was of course angry, but I had a vaguely detatched sense about the whole thing. A large part of that of
to really concern yourself with, except in a somewhat general, theoretical way.
trying to get an education
one of the most fad-driven enterprises imaginable. It produces a new catechism each decade, which everyone dutifully recites.
be harried by idiots who have full compliments of heads and genitals! With the ranks of my imaginary gnomes rallied,
only be revealed as more useless than it already seems), there is right now a coalition prepared to go into Iraq with the
In your face, Space Coyote!
just now. Admittedly they do face significant challenges in carrying out their duties due to their imaginary nature,
the real fault of that government or its citizens, or the West in general, or capitalism, or any other ridiculous boogeyman
the All Men Are Rapists self defense workshop? Surely that must be a representative sample of the country!
who has been deprived of food for at least 6 hours - sounds like an unusually cruel thing to do, I know, but I'm sure
Bush also spoke of an "international coalition" that would disarm Hussein. Bush knows the American public is loathe to
And exactly how do you go from no "final proof" to there being no evidence of impending aggression? The very fact that
rivals.
of fist.
And perhaps because of the collective weight of all those accumulated exhortations, perhaps from the psychic weariness
So welcome. If this is the first and/or only post you can see, it means I haven't imported my archives from Blogspot yet,
be harried by idiots who have full compliments of heads and genitals! With the ranks of my imaginary gnomes rallied,
or any other simply crappy country in the world, because none of them satisfy both those propositions.
to elicit empathy had been raised considerably since 9/11,
It is time for a new day to dawn in the Blogosphere, my gnome brothers. A glorious day. A day when no longer will we
join the majority of the world's nations in distancing themselves from Washington in a fashion not seen since the Vietnam War.
the way. Apparently that wasn't enough for the however, because they then started pulling at her legs to keep her from
she can last 6 hours). I make this declaration keeping in mind that this does not imply a judgement on the Idiotarian
Please. I can't swing around a dead Saddam on a rope without hitting this argument these days. At bottom, it's a slippery
Don't you people ever get tired of just pulling shit out of your asses?
getting an education. When she tried to talk to one of the organizers after her test about how some people were just
them into a thin paste of protein on a cave wall, to wipe out every last vestige of the disgusting stain they have left
go it alone. What he failed to do was tell us who the members of his war coalition are. Why? Because there is no coalition.
that I hadn't thought of it first!
act such as this. In a few days or weeks, I'm sure it will subside to a colder, more focused resolution to continue to
The article also points to this site, which maintains a running clock of how long it will be until Mitnick can start
"The death of that man is a religious duty, but his case should not be tied to the Christian community," Shabestari,
weapons inspections in Iraq represent a good example of how the rule of law has been used, and can be used again, to avert
Saddam is so hot to get his grubby hands on nukes is enough evidence of aggression. What's he going to do with them once
destroying the technological infrastructure of Western civilization again. And it's only 3 months away!
that boiled up to the surface when I read things like this.
I guess not. The fact that the UN is anything but democratic since the vast majority of countries represented there do not
"What I found personally to be true was that it's easier to manipulate people rather than technology," he said.
hacky-sack?"
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a careful, precise argument, what point is there in engaging them verbally anymore?
Saddam is so hot to get his grubby hands on nukes is enough evidence of aggression. What's he going to do with them once
Really, how often is someone able to so perfectly crystallize the dilemmas that will exist a century in the future
to all of you warmongering neanderthals" tone of voice. She then struck a pose of righteous exasperation when she asked
Now at this point, most people would just say, "let it go, and move on."
she can last 6 hours). I make this declaration keeping in mind that this does not imply a judgement on the Idiotarian
Please. I can't swing around a dead Saddam on a rope without hitting this argument these days. At bottom, it's a slippery
join the majority of the world's nations in distancing themselves from Washington in a fashion not seen since the Vietnam War.
To quote a boozed up, cynical and misanthropic individual whom I greatly admire: "Making fun of these people is like
the teacher trying to impress both of them.
rivals.
why she thought there weren't more stories about protests going on in the news, "Well, because the media is corporately
to all of you warmongering neanderthals" tone of voice. She then struck a pose of righteous exasperation when she asked
without regard to whether the loss is due to the growth of a heartless and all-absorbing commercialism,
about equal probability.
I don't know about you people, but I'm already stocking up on extra food, water, and electrons.
and eastern Europe, Australia and the middle east. Is that not multilateralism?
that boiled up to the surface when I read things like this.
the All Men Are Rapists self defense workshop? Surely that must be a representative sample of the country!
the efforts to find these people and eradicate them, to ferret them out from their cowardly hiding places and vaporize
curiosity that trumps any sort of legal resriction placed on him, but it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that he's
that I hadn't thought of it first!
rather than submit to infamy or see those that are dear to him suffer wrong.
Sure, it'd be nice to be a leader...
information with your heads crammed so far up your asses, so I'll give you a pass.
In your face, Space Coyote!
The fact that this is being published in the Chronicle is no small feat. Even more reason for you to go read it.
to the San Francisco federal building to protest the passage of Bush's resolution for action against Iraq.
side of the political spectrum... what are they called?
needed now was healing, closure; in short, to "get over it" and "move on."
War, by three fellows that hail from Global Exchange. You know who I'm talking about. The folks that want to "build an
Kevin Mitnick will be able to use a computer again in approximately 3 months.
The experience made me think of the instructions from all corners of the media after 9/11 that what we, as Americans,
Shiite Muslim clerics in Lebanon and Iran have reacted with rage at the Rev. Jerry Falwell for calling Islam's prophet
Already, even if the UN thumbs its irrelevant nose at the idea of going after Iraq (and if it actually does, then they'll
and eastern Europe, Australia and the middle east. Is that not multilateralism?
that continues to characterize the US as the Great Satan and preach jihad against all things Western? Oh I know, the Muslim
Anyway, take the new site for a test drive. Take her easy on the clutch and go steady on the hills, and I think you'll
attack against the United States. Even though President Bush acknowledged in his speech that Iraq does not currently
satisfy you. I'd be much more amendable to the idea however if you were willing to be a personal eye-witness to this
that off my list of things to do. Now, on to learning how to square-dance."
Bush also spoke of an "international coalition" that would disarm Hussein. Bush knows the American public is loathe to
when you apply your own internal calculus of death and suffering and conclude that it isn't something that you need
hunting dairy cows with a high-powered rifle and scope."
the teacher trying to impress both of them.
slope proposition, claiming that because we go after Saddam, we'll suddenly be all aggro-ed up to obliterate any country
to really concern yourself with, except in a somewhat general, theoretical way.
But anyway, right there you've got yourself eight nations total in the coalition, hailing from North America, both western
I urge anyone in the bay area who has the time on the 16th to come as well and lend credence with your example to the
be harried by idiots who have full compliments of heads and genitals! With the ranks of my imaginary gnomes rallied,
cause, but I,
Whereas the Cold War doctrine of deterrence and containment rested on strength, the new idea of pre-emption insists on U.S.
fact that these people are thugs, bullies and liars.
fact that these people are thugs, bullies and liars.
"I said it's being taken care of, dammit. Mind your own business."
lap dance.
, "I don't believe the American people support this war. Everyone I've talked to is against it!"
vaunted proof of yours. Then you could be really sure.
When they aired some actual interviews with the protesters, I started to honestly think they were part of some sort of
that boiled up to the surface when I read things like this.
weapons inspections in Iraq represent a good example of how the rule of law has been used, and can be used again, to avert
he revealed himself to be a seriously dishonest debater (that, or he was so stupid that it wouldn't be safe for him to
Russia and shit. Besides, it's just the Russians. Why don't we just contain them or something? Hey, who's up for some
occurred, smashing the window of their hotel room.
without regard to whether the loss is due to the growth of a heartless and all-absorbing commercialism,
Shiite Muslim clerics in Lebanon and Iran have reacted with rage at the Rev. Jerry Falwell for calling Islam's prophet
So seeing as how we've got massive approval from the House of Representatives and similar support in the senate is likely,
needed now was healing, closure; in short, to "get over it" and "move on."
to penetrate.
occurred, smashing the window of their hotel room.
I'm going to be checking the weather channel for reports of snowflakes in Hell, but meanwhile you should go read it now.
jerkwad I encounter, an order for them to be beheaded with extreme prejudice until the the point at which they are dead
morally, that this is the right thing to do.
care. Just don't let me hear anything about how this bombing that specifically targeted Australian civilians was somehow
At the very least, don't let me hear any of these things when you're standing in my presence, unless you want a faceful
Hesiod over at Counterspin Central is one such fellow. Not only with myself, but in his conversations with Den Beste,
that blatantly called for some rhetorical bitch-slapping.
lap dance.
to really concern yourself with, except in a somewhat general, theoretical way.
needed now was healing, closure; in short, to "get over it" and "move on."
I was already in a state of "moving on" and being "over it" before I even heard about the Bali attacks, with the result
Anyway, take the new site for a test drive. Take her easy on the clutch and go steady on the hills, and I think you'll
off a bunch of secretaries and other office workers who probably agree with them on the war anyway will further their
computer systems.
to penetrate.
go it alone. What he failed to do was tell us who the members of his war coalition are. Why? Because there is no coalition.
Already, even if the UN thumbs its irrelevant nose at the idea of going after Iraq (and if it actually does, then they'll
trying to get an education
be replacing the old site that was hosted on that evil of evils, that bane of banes, that something-really-awful of
about equal probability.
War, by three fellows that hail from Global Exchange. You know who I'm talking about. The folks that want to "build an
I mean come on, when you're arguing with someone who's just going to call you a Nazi when you spend 2,000 words making
we despise no less the coward and the voluptuary. No man is worth calling a man who will not fight
who like to chant slogans and can't come up with any better rhyme than something that has to do with the number "four" and "war."
"The death of that man is a religious duty, but his case should not be tied to the Christian community," Shabestari,
sloth, or as an instrument to further the ends of despotism or anarchy.
the not-being-a-jerk department.
War, by three fellows that hail from Global Exchange. You know who I'm talking about. The folks that want to "build an
So I hereby declare myself Ayatollah Mustardah of Blogistan. From this day forward, I will call down, on any Idiotarian
Replace "powerful" with "crazy and armed with nukes" and you'd be right. Otherwise, your statement is nonsense.
President Bush says he wants to avoid "a future of fear." It's an admirable goal, but one hardly served by this new doctrine.
In your face, Space Coyote!
So welcome. If this is the first and/or only post you can see, it means I haven't imported my archives from Blogspot yet,
Sorry folks, but slippery slope arguments don't hold water by themselves. We're going after Saddam because he 1) has shown
again soon, didn't we?"
trying to get an education
50 Ways to Leave Your Folly Common Dreams, that goldmine of general silliness, showcases this piece, The Folly of Pre-emptive
...but there's no shame in being a follower when those you're following make such damn good points.
for the life of me, cannot see it. The news showed a clip of a guy trying politely to walk around a woman so self-righteous
he revealed himself to be a seriously dishonest debater (that, or he was so stupid that it wouldn't be safe for him to
I figured that was the way to go. But then I read this.
So seeing as how we've got massive approval from the House of Representatives and similar support in the senate is likely,
sloth, or as an instrument to further the ends of despotism or anarchy.
they're done, hang them on his wall next to the framed heads of Iraqi dissidents and say to himself, "Well, I can check
Heh. Didn't Nostradamus write something about "a bespeckled plague rising in the West..."?
I simply love it when my case is made for me.
you could see stink lines of self-satisfaction coming off her so that he could simply get to his job. She of course started
he revealed himself to be a seriously dishonest debater (that, or he was so stupid that it wouldn't be safe for him to
Iranian cleric Mohsen Mojtahed Shabestari, addressing weekly Friday prayers in the northwestern town of Tabriz, said
It seems the Muslim version of a slander suit is cutting off your head. Now when I read this I was shocked, just shocked
A taste, just a taste...
the teacher trying to impress both of them.
alternative economy." I suppose that's better PR than saying they want to impose a grab bag full of sociialistic silliness
I don't know about you people, but I'm already stocking up on extra food, water, and electrons.
side of the political spectrum... what are they called?
that continues to characterize the US as the Great Satan and preach jihad against all things Western? Oh I know, the Muslim
It may be a sad illustration of my lack to find sympathy within myself without reading descriptions or seeing pictures,
Such as this quote by Teddy Roosevelt concerning his acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize, posted now
We despise and abhor the bully, the brawler, the oppressor, whether in private or public life, but
without regard to whether the loss is due to the growth of a heartless and all-absorbing commercialism,
go it alone. What he failed to do was tell us who the members of his war coalition are. Why? Because there is no coalition.
why she thought there weren't more stories about protests going on in the news, "Well, because the media is corporately
getting an education. When she tried to talk to one of the organizers after her test about how some people were just
Well, being the abject conformist that I am, I would like to welcome all new and oldcomers to my new blog, which will
but they make up for any lack of actual existence with pure unadulterated enthusiasm.
to the San Francisco federal building to protest the passage of Bush's resolution for action against Iraq.
you could see stink lines of self-satisfaction coming off her so that he could simply get to his job. She of course started
use grown-up scissors), but nevertheless, even though he really didn't deserve it,
about equal probability.
Quite the contrary, Bush's aggressive rhetoric, disregard for international law, and his lack of any vision other than war
let you know when there's a mushroom cloud over New York, because that's the only "final proof" that seems to be able to
be replacing the old site that was hosted on that evil of evils, that bane of banes, that something-really-awful of
care. Just don't let me hear anything about how this bombing that specifically targeted Australian civilians was somehow
Well I wouldn't be surprised if this Wednesday at Sproul there will be similar behavior, and I plan to be there. Maybe
Really, how often is someone able to so perfectly crystallize the dilemmas that will exist a century in the future
owned," she pontificated, in that snotty "52% of my clothes are made of hemp which therefore makes me morally superior
a careful, precise argument, what point is there in engaging them verbally anymore?
to prolonged indulgence in luxury and soft, effortless ease, or to the deification of a warped and twisted sentimentality.
The BBC has a story about the so-called "master hacker", in which it does a good job of destroying the mythos that
without regard to whether the loss is due to the growth of a heartless and all-absorbing commercialism,
rivals.
I simply love it when my case is made for me.
United States invade a distant country without any evidence of impending aggression.
"I said it's being taken care of, dammit. Mind your own business."
Watching Channel 7 news today (the Simpsons were in a commercial), they reported on a wad of dingbats who blocked access
we despise no less the coward and the voluptuary. No man is worth calling a man who will not fight
alternative economy." I suppose that's better PR than saying they want to impose a grab bag full of sociialistic silliness
you could see stink lines of self-satisfaction coming off her so that he could simply get to his job. She of course started
the teacher trying to impress both of them.
But for now if you all don't mind, I'd just like to stew in my rage for a while, and remind myself in a truly visceral
owned," she pontificated, in that snotty "52% of my clothes are made of hemp which therefore makes me morally superior
getting an education. When she tried to talk to one of the organizers after her test about how some people were just
be replacing the old site that was hosted on that evil of evils, that bane of banes, that something-really-awful of
fact that these people are thugs, bullies and liars.
One of the great advances of the modern era has been the spread of the rule of law. This is the now common idea that
let you know when there's a mushroom cloud over New York, because that's the only "final proof" that seems to be able to
Containment and deterrence were responses to US weakness, you silly-headed dunderpate. It was obvious that using direct
It may be a sad illustration of my lack to find sympathy within myself without reading descriptions or seeing pictures,
Shiite Muslim clerics in Lebanon and Iran have reacted with rage at the Rev. Jerry Falwell for calling Islam's prophet
Now of course I'm sure that these open-toed folks have a flurry of perfectly well thought-out reasons as to why pissing
In fact, the idea of pre- emptive attack depends on fear. It presupposes insecurity and assumes we will always be threatened.
world that even today harbors and offers succor to the same groups that piloted the 9/11 planes, right?
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The BBC has a story about the so-called "master hacker", in which it does a good job of destroying the mythos that
Well I wouldn't be surprised if this Wednesday at Sproul there will be similar behavior, and I plan to be there. Maybe
By tossing out any reasonable standards of evidence as a prerequisite for military action, the White House puts us in a state
to make the first world poor and make sure the third world stays that way.
Russia and shit. Besides, it's just the Russians. Why don't we just contain them or something? Hey, who's up for some
What it does not mean however, is that this suddenly signals that we are going to be going after China, Saudi Arabia, Cuba
predictable frequency. Follow a politician to a school photo-op,
morally, that this is the right thing to do.
both at home and abroad, can go heartily fuck themselves, or jump off a cliff, or shoot themselves in the head. I don't
US: Italy, Australia, Poland, Spain, Qatar, Kuwait and, of course, Britain. I know it's hard to find out this kind of
Heh. Didn't Nostradamus write something about "a bespeckled plague rising in the West..."?
What it does not mean however, is that this suddenly signals that we are going to be going after China, Saudi Arabia, Cuba
In your face, Space Coyote!
Hey, didn't there used to be a city where this smoking crater is?
that has the temerity to look at us cock-eyed.
only be revealed as more useless than it already seems), there is right now a coalition prepared to go into Iraq with the
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faith at large, since many of them are peaceful, albeit intellectually stunted, people.
Sorry folks, but slippery slope arguments don't hold water by themselves. We're going after Saddam because he 1) has shown
to get a good smack upside the head (or as I call it, a "hippie hello"), but that was apparently too much for the niggardly
just now. Admittedly they do face significant challenges in carrying out their duties due to their imaginary nature,
the real fault of that government or its citizens, or the West in general, or capitalism, or any other ridiculous boogeyman
again soon, didn't we?"
I finally went and did it.
50 Ways to Leave Your Folly Common Dreams, that goldmine of general silliness, showcases this piece, The Folly of Pre-emptive
the real fault of that government or its citizens, or the West in general, or capitalism, or any other ridiculous boogeyman
In fact, the idea of pre- emptive attack depends on fear. It presupposes insecurity and assumes we will always be threatened.
he revealed himself to be a seriously dishonest debater (that, or he was so stupid that it wouldn't be safe for him to
of a lack of imagination or basic humanity; the fact that it's difficult for me to feel deeply for people suffering unless
According to the president, "we cannot wait for the final proof" that Saddam Hussein's government is planning an imminent
chanting in his face and moved in front of him every time he tried to get around her.
nuclear weapons. Containment was born out of a realization that we were effectively restrained by our lack of strategic
alternative economy." I suppose that's better PR than saying they want to impose a grab bag full of sociialistic silliness
The BBC has a story about the so-called "master hacker", in which it does a good job of destroying the mythos that
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